Quote: zooo @ April 14 2012, 12:30 PM BSTObviously a joke, yes very good.
Just trying to make a little aside about blame and responsibility, but as we all know, women are pretty much perfect and can never be blamed for anything or have to worry about stoopid things like responsibility.
Quote: Tursiops @ April 14 2012, 12:29 PM BSTWe all know Aaron treats you mean.
*keeps her keen*
To suggest that women stay with abusive men because they are 'thick' or 'for love' is, frankly, ridiculous.
If you said it's through fear and having any self esteem or confidence eroded by the constant physical and mental abuse of a man who both hates and fears women is probably nearer the truth.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ April 14 2012, 12:33 PM BSTJust trying to make a little aside about blame and responsibility, but as we all know, women are pretty much perfect and can never be blamed for anything or have to worry about stoopid things like responsibility.
As several have observed before, you have evidently surrounded yourself with a very high calibre of women...
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ April 14 2012, 12:33 PM BSTJust trying to make a little aside about blame and responsibility, but as we all know, women are pretty much perfect and can never be blamed for anything or have to worry about stoopid things like responsibility.
I worry about you , RC. Please seek the help you need. 
Quote: rwayne @ April 14 2012, 12:35 PM BSTIf you said it's through fear and having any self esteem or confidence eroded by the constant physical and mental abuse of a man who both hates and fears women is probably nearer the truth.
The problem with these excuses - and they are excuses - is that we rarely hear about the friends, family and authorities who've stepped in to try and end the abuse and the woman refusing any and all help to get away from the scum bastard.
Entire court cases have collapsed because a woman (who is not thick), has changed her testimony at the last mintue because Tatooed McMurderer has said 'Soz Debbie, I promise not to hits you no mores.'
Maybe I'm completely wrong and that I shouldn't condemn anyone involved and that it's perfectly acceptable to carry on with this cycle of violence.
'He only hits me because he loves me and no one understands him like I do'
Quote: Matthew Stott @ April 14 2012, 12:38 PM BSTI worry about you , RC. Please seek the help you need.
You sound just like my parole officer...and doctor...and mental health nurse. You guys are a total downer.
If you choose to substitute the word 'excuse' for 'reason' that would kind of suggest you think any such abused women is at part to blame!
Isn't that what abusers say?... "you made me do it.."
Quote: rwayne @ April 14 2012, 12:50 PM BSTIf you choose to substitute the word 'excuse' for 'reason' that would kind of suggest you think any such abused women is at part to blame!
Isn't that what abusers say?... "you made me do it.."
And by saying that no woman is to blame for enabling and facilitating the abuse is also misguided.
In the case of Tina Nash, she admitted lying to the police so she could stay in her abusive relationship. Last time I checked, lying to the police was a crime, but I can understand the authorities not wanting to press charges.
What's really eating me up about this whole case is that Eyeball O'Gougey is sitting in his prison cell probably receiving letters of sympathy from women.
They are a nutty bunch.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ April 14 2012, 1:15 PM BSTThey are a nutty bunch.
Lol, it is quite hilarious, and possibly says a lot about you, that after a story about a man gouging out someone's eyes, your conclusion is that women are a nutty bunch...
I don't think 'misguided' is the correct word to be honest.
Clearly you'd like to see an element of 'contributory negligence'... I think that is a very worrying way to look at things. Don't blame the victims for the crimes fella because then you're down the road of:
She wore a short dress so deserved to be raped.
He should have known this are wasn't safe so deserved to be robbed.
You're an intelligent man, think about why a women would stay.
Quote: zooo @ April 14 2012, 1:17 PM BSTLol, it is quite hilarious, and possibly says a lot about you, that after a story about a man gouging out someone's eyes, your conclusion is that women are a nutty bunch...
As previously stated, women love a bad boy. Now if you'll excuse me, the nice daughter of a millionairre has promised to help me move my television - from Comet's front window.
As previously stated, women love a bad boy...
And all becomes clear!
Quote: rwayne @ April 14 2012, 1:22 PM BSTClearly you'd like to see an element of 'contributory negligence'... I think that is a very worrying way to look at things. Don't blame the victims for the crimes fella
That's just it, I'm not blaming her for the crime, but neither am I holding her up as some sort of total innocent.
If you knew that a violent gang of muggers liked hanging around the park at night - would you walk through the park at night on your own? And if you did and were mugged, should I show you sympathy or admonish you for a lack of common sense?
It would be very easy to dismiss these constant occurences with a simple predator / victim analogy and thankfully, it's only a small minority of relationships that become so violent, but there are many underlying causes and by not looking at all sides, the cycle of violence will continue.
Why did Tina Nash deliberately stay with her abusive partner? Who knows for sure. Does she still love him? Who knows for sure. Would the world be a better place without either of these mong-tarded f**k weasels? Yes, yes it would.
What you seem to be deliberately ignoring is that many of these victims have their free will removed.
Of course, people who are as confident, strong and 'together' as yourself wouldn't stay. Not everyone is.
I'm sure you've heard of Stockholm syndrome.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ April 14 2012, 1:24 PM BSTAs previously stated, women love a bad boy.
No, some women, not all. And obviously there's a difference between a 'bad boy' and 'a boy who will pull your eyes out'.