Yesterdays news had 3 disgraced "influences"
The UK Asian Tick Tok beauty tipster jailed for murder. A self proclaimed YouTube parental guidance expert from Utah guilty of child abuser against her own kid ! Proud boy leader (ex army) getting 17 years for storming the capital. Hopeful they're setting the bar for Trump.
We criticise the influences of past, eg religion and the BBC , but are the new influences any better with moral guidance ?
Quote: Firkin @ 3rd September 2023, 12:30 PMYesterdays news had 3 disgraced "influences"
The UK Asian Tick Tok beauty tipster jailed for murder. A self proclaimed YouTube parental guidance expert from Utah guilty of child abuser against her own kid ! Proud boy leader (ex army) getting 17 years for storming the capital. Hopeful they're setting the bar for Trump.We criticise the influences of past, eg religion and the BBC , but are the new influences any better with moral guidance ?
Trump appointed judge gave him just 17 years when the DOJ wanted a sentence of over 30 years for sedition
Two tier justice system
I read that the EU is running out of money (other people's money)
If member states are asked to increase their payments there's a real chance they might leave.
The billions the UK used to pay is starting to make the foundations creak.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd September 2023, 1:47 PMI
The billions the UK used to pay is starting to make the foundations creak.
I doubt it since we are still paying this.
After the SNP set up a Ulez-style scheme in the centre of Glasgow, pollution levels linked to traffic rose by about 10 per cent.
Nitrogen dioxide levels in Hope Street, which had the country's worst air quality, were measured at an average of 34 micrograms per cubic metre between June and August this year. This compared with a figure of 31 micrograms in the same period last year, before the city's low emission zone (Lez) was introduced. A rise of 9.7 per cent.
Levels of fine particulate matter, another pollutant from motor vehicles, increased by 11.5 per cent over the same period, from 5.2 to 5.8 micrograms per cubic metre.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/03/glasgow-lez-low-emission-zone-nitrogen-dioxide-pollution/
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 3rd September 2023, 7:27 PMI doubt it since we are still paying this.
That's not how international finance works though as many future deals are lost or have payment terms reduced on the basis that 1 the EU won't be as flush then as it was and 2, apparently the thing that really worries the EU, they won't be as big and attractive a market because old blighty with its 6th largest world economy and accompanying spending power has f**ked off out of it and set up on its own, with less restrictive trade laws.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd September 2023, 1:47 PMI read that the EU is running out of money (other people's money)
If member states are asked to increase their payments there's a real chance they might leave.
It's inevitable, Brexit ultimately burst the bubble of unending EU riches for the already wealthy after the catastrophic collapse of Greece's economy set the alarm bells ringing and the mass immigration mess made them louder. The only thing delaying it is the EU's despotic Nazi like threat to destroy their chances of success outside, using GB as their guinea pig voodoo doll. It shouldn't take too long now, the end of the EU is on the way.
And we are all weaker as a result.
'All' is a sweeping statement.
Quote: lofthouse @ 1st September 2023, 6:12 PMNot as good as it would have been , without Brexit
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 1st September 2023, 7:46 PMDo you have the evidence for that?
I'll take that as a "no" then.
Amazing that a few deluded people are still talking up the complete shit show that is Brexit.
Amazing that anyone who is/was a Brexit supporter is called deluded. (and worse of course)
And 'a few" were more than half the voters.
Quote: beaky @ 4th September 2023, 11:01 AMAmazing that a few deluded people are still talking up the complete shit show that is Brexit.
Asking for evidence when someone makes a sweeping statement that Britain's GDP would be better if it wasn't for Brexit is not "talking up Brexit". It's called "asking a question". Anyone can make sweeping statements. Without backing them up with evidence, they mean nothing.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 4th September 2023, 11:21 AMAmazing that anyone who is/was a Brexit supporter is called deluded. (and worse of course)
And 'a few" were more than half the voters.
Yes, but far less half of the population still think it was a good idea, seven years after the vote. Only about a third seem to support Brexit today. https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 4th September 2023, 12:06 PMAsking for evidence when someone makes a sweeping statement that Britain's GDP would be better if it wasn't for Brexit is not "talking up Brexit". It's called "asking a question". Anyone can make sweeping statements. Without backing them up with evidence, they mean nothing.
Many reports suggest Brexit has reduced our current levels of GDP by about 3%.
Covid and the Ukraine War harmed the economy too, but Brexit alone accounts for 3%.
https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/impact-brexit-uk-economy-reviewing-evidence
Can anyone provide any evidence that Brexit has boosted the UK economy?
Only about a third seem to support Brexit today.
I seem to remember similar stats before the Brexit vote. Stats are not fact, you can always find them to suit your agenda.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 4th September 2023, 12:45 PMI seem to remember similar stats before the Brexit vote. Stats are not fact, you can always find them to suit your agenda.
No. The polling just before the vote only ever suggested a narrow majority favoured remaining in the EU, not the big numbers we're seeing now.
If stats are so easy to falsify or manipulate, why is nobody here (or anywhere) providing any stats which a) suggest a clear majority still support Brexit or b) that Brexit is boosting the economy?