DaButt
Saturday 3rd November 2018 4:16pm
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Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd November 2018, 9:42 AM
It's helpful to the American psyche if they label 99% of gun deaths as criminals or drug dealers.
Not 99% of gun murders, but the percentage that don't involve a convicted criminal, drugs, or gangs are probably in the single digits.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd November 2018, 9:42 AM
Blame the criminals and you don't have a gun problem
By definition, they're the ones who are committing the crimes.
Texas has more than 1,300,000 citizens who are license to carry a concealed firearm. Last year they committed 5 murders. Do the math and you'll find that the murder rate (of all kinds, not just by guns) among licensed Texans is 1/3 that of the UK as a whole. So are the guns the problem, or is it the criminals who use guns to murder people?
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd November 2018, 9:42 AM
If there are 33.000 gun death a year though.... you'll soon run out of criminals and the death rate will fall dramatically
In 10,000 years, assuming there's no procreation in the meantime.
As you know, 2/3 of those deaths are suicides and they have no place in a discussion of gun violence. That said, where is your uproar about the number of drug overdose deaths in the United States? 72,000 per year and climbing rapidly. More people die from overdoses than from suicides, guns, vehicle accidents or AIDS. Why the fixation on guns, when they're not even our worst problem?
Quote: Firkin @ 3rd November 2018, 12:09 PM
Japan appears to have next to no fatalities, between 0 - 10 a year.
It's foolish to compare two countries; correlation is not causation. Japan is an aging, homogeneous nation with almost no history of gun crime. Crime in general is rare. The United States has more than a million people behind bars for violent crimes, including more than 200,000 convicted of murder. Apples and oranges.
Mexico sits about 120 miles from my home. They have very strict gun laws compared to the United States, yet their firearm murder rate is 5 times that of my country. Again, apples and oranges.