Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th April 2014, 4:37 PM BSTSo if I ran off with a 14 year old British girl and we had rampant sex in a European country with a lower age of consent, would I be arrested on returning to the UK?
You know, hypothetically speaking and that....
Well if it's that teacher you're referring to, he was shagging her before he left.
If its sex tourists who travel abroad to do it, the law was changed to allow them to be prosecuted.
Oh, and don't have sexy time in the UK.
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 4:41 PM BSTIf its sex tourists who travel abroad to do it, the law was changed to allow them to be prosecuted.
That was my main concern, so there is some sort of precedence to convict for crimes abroad even if they are legal in a particular country.
the conservatives have finally banned sex, about bloody time.
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 4:41 PM BST
If you just happened to meet her in Spain (age of consent: 13) then I don't see a problem.
Weird how we've standardised everything else across Europe, but not the age of consent. Nick Clegg's a bloody paedo!
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 4:41 PM BSTIf its sex tourists who travel abroad to do it, the law was changed to allow them to be prosecuted.
Has it? I did not know this. I knew that they monitor them and no longer let them go to Cambodia to admire the cultural delights of Angkor Wat anymore
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 4:42 PM BSTOh, and don't have sexy time in the UK.
No chance of that.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th April 2014, 4:44 PM BSTThat was my main concern, so there is some sort of precedence to convict for crimes abroad even if they are legal in a particular country.
paedophilia is illegal in most of those countries, they're not convicted due to weak, corrupt police there/
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 4:46 PM BSTpaedophilia is illegal in most of those countries, they're not convicted due to weak, corrupt police there/
Just found this on Stylee Ting Ting's most favouritist website -
'In English law, where murder and manslaughter are concerned, the English court has jurisdiction over offences committed abroad, if it was committed by a British citizen (see section 9 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861 and section 3 of the British Nationality Act 1948). In R v Cheong (2006) AER (D) 385 the appellant was living in Guyana in 1983. He shot and killed a man who had just robbed his wife and sister-in-law. Under local law he was charged only with the unlicensed possession of a firearm; but as a British citizen, section 9 of the 1861 Act applied 19 years after he returned to England and he was charged with murder. On appeal, a conviction for manslaughter was upheld.'
Complex thing the law innit.
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 4:53 PM BSTComplex thing the law innit.
It is after reading that, if taken to extremes, then a British citizen who was working at Dignitas killing old people all day could be convicted for murder upon returning to the UK - just as I supposed.
Good thing they're all Swiss.
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 4:59 PM BSTGood thing they're all Swiss.
It's funny how our arguments always go round in circles. Gordon Bennett expressed concern over the possibility of someone in Switzerland going nuts with a rifle and killing people. And yet he lives in a country where they've made an industry out of killing people.
Guns don't kill people, Dignitas does.
you're trawling now....
and get with the times, Belgium has liberalised the whole process far more
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 5:11 PM BSTyou're trawling now....
No just making a philosophical point about the very nature of death, murder, value judgements and the law.
It's uncomfortable granted, but worth examining. Especially as we have a way of normalising or even showing compassion to one set of murderers but not another.
If elderly man kills his wife, that's understandable, if Dignitas kills an old lady then that's acceptable, street thug punches an old woman and she dies, off to prison. In all instances, the old lady gets it, but only two out of the three will be prosecuted and only two out of the three will be treated with empathy, though in both cases, they're different two out of threes.
Basically, don't be an old lady.
