Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 3:06 PM BSTPersonally, if I am ever sent to prison for a long time, I am going to do a degree with the OU and write a novel.
Become a ghost writer, then you still get a novel even if you do win the case.
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 3:06 PM BSTPersonally, if I am ever sent to prison for a long time, I am going to do a degree with the OU and write a novel.
Become a ghost writer, then you still get a novel even if you do win the case.
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 3:11 PM BSTYou really should go for a job drafting legislation, Zooo.
We'd have Cat 1: Really Mean Murder. Cat 2: Slightly Less Mean Murder. Cat 3: Understandable Murder.
Which category does Doctor Harold Shipman fit in?
Quote: zooo @ 8th April 2014, 3:21 PM BSTCat 1: ANYONE BEING MEAN TO CATS gets death penalty.
Especially those cat owners who get them neutered. That is a viciously violent and premeditated act of GBH and ABH.
A wooden box surely, what with him being dead and all.
Quote: sootyj @ 8th April 2014, 4:05 PM BSTA wooden box surely, what with him being dead and all.
It's got me thinking though, if a Dignitas employee visited the UK, could they be arrested for killing British people over in Switzerland - or wherever their underground death lab is located?
No, there would be no jurisdiction. You have to obey the laws of the country you are in.
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 4:16 PM BSTNo, there would be no jurisdiction. You have to obey the laws of the country you are in.
Phew!
Quote: zooo @ 8th April 2014, 3:21 PM BSTCat 1: ANYONE BEING MEAN TO CATS gets death penalty.
But is "being mean" defined in human or cat eyes?
Because in the eyes of my cat, not letting him climb out of my window onto an icy roof is the very height of meanness.
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 4:16 PM BSTNo, there would be no jurisdiction. You have to obey the laws of the country you are in.
Interesting. But what about extradition and whatnot? I'm thinking about Julian Assange and paedos and that.
Aw, good point. I think we have to stick to human definitions. Otherwise I'd be dead for having stopped tickling the cat under his chin after I get cramp in my hand.
RCP why are you staring wistfully into the middle distance?
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th April 2014, 4:27 PM BST? I'm thinking about Julian Assange and paedos and that.
Quote: dannyjb1 @ 8th April 2014, 4:29 PM BSTRCP why are you staring wistfully into the middle distance?
Drugs.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th April 2014, 4:27 PM BSTInteresting. But what about extradition and whatnot? I'm thinking about Julian Assange and paedos and that.
That's different because they are alleged to have committed a crime in that jurisdiction. The other country is just asking for them to be sent back.
One of the conditions of extradition is that there is a similar law in the UK - e.g. we would not extradite someone to Uganda to face charges of being gay.
But we are sending them back (or in Assange's case, trying to) to face trial and sentence under the laws of whatever country they have been naughty in.
I remember once representing a Polish chap on a post conviction Arrest Warrant. He had stolen polystyrene from a church and they had given him three years imprisonment. I remember thinking that was harsh.
Quote: zooo @ 8th April 2014, 4:29 PM BSTAw, good point. I think we have to stick to human definitions. Otherwise I'd be dead for having stopped tickling the cat under his chin after I get cramp in my hand.
Oh, I know that look. Pure hatred. How dare you.
Quote: Jennie @ 8th April 2014, 4:33 PM BSTThat's different because they are alleged to have committed a crime in that jurisdiction. The other country is just asking for them to be sent back.
One of the conditions of extradition is that there is a similar law in the UK - e.g. we would not extradite someone to Uganda to face charges of being gay.
But we are sending them back (or in Assange's case, trying to) to face trial and sentence under the laws of whatever country they have been naughty in.
I remember once representing a Polish chap on a post conviction Arrest Warrant. He had stolen polystyrene from a church and they had given him three years imprisonment. I remember thinking that was harsh.
So if I ran off with a 14 year old British girl and we had rampant sex in a European country with a lower age of consent, would I be arrested on returning to the UK?
You know, hypothetically speaking and that....
don't f**k with polystyrene Jesus.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 8th April 2014, 4:37 PM BSTSo if I ran off with a 14 year old British girl and we had rampant sex in a European country with a lower age of consent, would I be arrested on returning to the UK?
You know, hypothetically speaking and that....
It's the child abduction charge that's the bugger.
If you just happened to meet her in Spain (age of consent: 13) then I don't see a problem.