A Horseradish
Sunday 20th October 2013 9:14am [Edited]
8,475 posts
Quote: sootyj @ October 20 2013, 8:56 AM BST
This discussion is so depressing, it's the modern attitude of don't get involved, don't share don't be part of a community.
Sit on your bum and wait till someone responsible hands you choice and then decide or don't.
It's Xfactor politics.
The system you suggest means either choosing between a hopeless elected government with no mandate, crawling back to the people for permission for anything. Or an even scarier set of beurodictats, letting us choose on pointless mini choices, but holding back or phrasing the questions how they choose.
I don't want EDL in politics and I want Greens and UKIP in the corners.
Politics will only work when people get involved. Vote for Bastard because he's better than c**t.
But it shouldn't be what you or I want. It should be what we as a population want. Anyhow, I'd be most surprised if I could find 3 in a 100 across the country who had any sympathy with the EDL. Some tighter immigration controls would probably be favoured and all discrimination would probably be opposed. On EU there is likely to be a referendum. Nobody wise would bet on the outcome. As for greening, unfortunately support for it can be very overestimated. Most people want houses, they detest recycling and having to pay, gosh, fivepence for a plastic bag, and they would need counselling if ever separated from their cars.
The key issue, though, is not policy. Sure, there are certain economic aspects to any rebalancing of decision making so that government is for the people rather than corporations. What is more important constitutionally is that projects aren't embarked on when there isn't a mandate. In the past three years, umpteen things have been done that were in none of the manifestos or the Coalition Agreement and they haven't been introduced because of unanticipated events. That's the kind of arrogance which needs be stamped out. We need a lever so that they are brought to a table where what they do is nailed down.
I wrote my last post in just ten minutes off the top of my head. The idea is not one I have spent years considering. But as I wrote it, there was a strong feeling that, actually, yes it would sell - to the young and possibly the elderly. It is not my intention to develop it but there are very good reasons why it should float around a bit. I'm not posting any more on the subject today as another sort of gutter needs sorting out.
