I read the news today oh boy! - Page 1174

Monday 25th March 2013 9:29am

Brighton

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Quote: sootyj @ March 24 2013, 6:06 PM GMT
http://www.livescience.com/11208-high-suicide-risk-prejudice-plague-transgender-people.html

http://www.queerty.com/did-a-daily-mail-article-lead-to-transgender-womans-suicide-20130323/

So with regards to the tragic suicide of lucy Meadows. If 41% of transgndered people attempt suicide. Far above any other minority (except Kamikaze pilots). Is perhaps the problem that being transgnedered is a condition which makes one uniquely suseptible to suicide like black people and Sickle Cell?

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I see there's a lot of anger against Littlejohn now, and this story has raised his odious profile again. Which, of course, makes him even more employable.

sootyj

Monday 25th March 2013 10:08am

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Quote: Nogget @ March 25 2013, 8:18 AM GMT
I doubt we'll be able to have anything approaching a frank discussion about this without it descending into vitriol.

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Isn't vitriol a brand of toilet cleaner?

I was thinking. Ok so societal bullying and misunderstanding makes people more likely to commit suicide.

But what about gays and lesbians in Uganda, Iran or any other theocratic shit hole.

Where they are slandered in the most outrageous terms and face long prison sentences in death.

But I don't think there's a statistically significant spike in suicide rates.

I just think we're getting a tendency to label or not label mental illnesses as a result of societal prejudice or favour. Then pretend it's scientific/medical fact.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/school-district-responds-to-discrimination-complaint-over-transgender-6-year-old-coy-mathis

I mean I read this story and it disturbed the heck out of me. Knowing you're the wrong gender before you hit puberty. I don't believe it.

zooo

Monday 25th March 2013 10:32am

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Quote: billwill @ March 25 2013, 2:58 AM GMT
Hopefully the seller will remember to withdraw it from sale before the deadline or he/she may have to pay x% of £10,000,000 to ebay.

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Oh blimey.

Nogget

Monday 25th March 2013 1:33pm

Brighton

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Quote: sootyj @ March 25 2013, 10:08 AM GMT
Isn't vitriol a brand of toilet cleaner?

I was thinking. Ok so societal bullying and misunderstanding makes people more likely to commit suicide.

But what about gays and lesbians in Uganda, Iran or any other theocratic shit hole.

Where they are slandered in the most outrageous terms and face long prison sentences in death.

But I don't think there's a statistically significant spike in suicide rates.

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So if the link between bullying and suicide isn't that strong, something else must be more significant? You're saying the suicidal tendencies might come from within?

I think part of the problem is that along with all the prejudice against the transgender community, there is prejudice against mental illness, so whatever part that plays in all this is becomes doubly controversial; if indeed it plays any part at all.

Sinon

Monday 25th March 2013 1:43pm

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Quote: Nogget @ March 25 2013, 1:33 PM GMT
So if the link between bullying and suicide isn't that strong, something else must be more significant? You're saying the suicidal tendencies might come from within?

I think part of the problem is that along with all the prejudice against the transgender community, there is prejudice against mental illness, so whatever part that plays in all this is becomes doubly controversial; if indeed it plays any part at all.

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Suicidal tendencies always come from within don't they?