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Quote: Lee Henman @ November 6 2008, 6:47 PM GMT

Can I just ask, (or "arx" might be a better word), why young London black people can't say "th". Why is it always "I fink" instead of "think"? And "bovvered" instead of "bothered"? I don't get it.

And I'm not being racist Sooty, it's a genuine question.

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Isn't it because you Northeners use up all the extra Ts?

T'kettle, T'pit, Slapping T'missus?

I'm not being racist either I'm a genuine prick.

A more accurate answer is either people speaking or pretneding to speak patois.

A Caribean derivation of English, like the near extinct yam yam of Wolverhampton.

Quote: sootyj @ November 6 2008, 8:01 PM GMT

Isn't it because you Northeners use up all the extra Ts?

T'kettle, T'pit, Slapping T'missus?

I'm not being racist either I'm a genuine prick.

A more accurate answer is either people speaking or pretneding to speak patois.

A Caribean derivation of English, like the near extinct yam yam of Wolverhampton.

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Are you saying it's a case of t'pot calling t'kettle black?

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Aye happen I might be calling t'kettle black, black as a miners arse is t'kettle.

How do Yorkshire people pronounce the band name "The The"?

When they were popular Hull HMV issued it's counter staff with wet suits.

"Innit" doesn't always mean "isn't it?" - more often it's just used as a figure of speech to emphasise what's just been said, and offer conversation space to the other parties. It's the modern equivalent of the posh "Don't you know?"

I think Baumski might be able to give a treatise on it, innit.

But then that's still the kind of affirmation/clarification thing I mentioned, no? Wanting to move on, hopefully without being put down or argued against?

Quote: Aaron @ November 7 2008, 12:12 AM GMT

But then that's still the kind of affirmation/clarification thing I mentioned, no? Wanting to move on, hopefully without being put down or argued against?

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You have used "no?" in exactly the same way innit.

In which case my "innit" substitutes for "haven't you?", innit.

In which case my "innit" substitites for "doesn't it?", innit.

Etc

Yes.

Quote: Aaron @ November 7 2008, 12:16 AM GMT

Yes.

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Innit.

This style of talking is a lot older than many people think. It was funny, when Ali-G first got popular, in the late '90s, how so many white celebs, who had lived in London all their lives, seemed to think his way of talking was totally new, and could only be heard in South London school playgrounds. The truth was that much of the slang he used had originated about 30 years earlier, in Jamaica, and had been used on London streets for almost as long.

Quote: sootyj @ November 6 2008, 8:01 PM GMT

A more accurate answer is either people speaking or pretending to speak patois.

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Yes. It's not new and it's not intrinsically bad.