Well mine was issued by the Royal Bank of SCOTLAND. So I directly blame you, keewik. 
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Quote: Lee @ May 21 2013, 12:04 PM BSTWell mine was issued by the Royal Bank of SCOTLAND. So I directly blame you, keewik.
That's what we do to foreigners - har, har, har!
TV pieces on cosmetic dentistry. Can you ever get hold of any sort of dentist?
Quote: keewik @ May 21 2013, 11:45 AM BSTWhat the Hell are these gadgets? Thank the gods I live in a cave and have never seen one.
The description on the RBS website is difficult to view.
This description on the Barclays site is clearer.
http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/HowtousePINsentry/P1242560253457
It's a little battery powered box like a small pocket calculator into which you can insert your chipped Credit Card, Debit card or a Digital Banking card.
You then key in your PIN (of that card) to enable the card to respond.
A banking website will then instruct you which buttons to press and which numbers to enter. The result is a response number on its little screen which you copy onto a slot on the website to send back. The bank website then knows that you have that Credit/Debit/Banking card and you know the PIN, so it has the same security as the Hole-in-the-Wall cash machines, or a transaction at a shop or supermarket etc with an on-line card reader. The response is different each time, but the bank website knows what it ought to be. It's not a static password it is a challenge-respond system. The bank sends a number to your computer display, you copy that to the little reader; the reader plus chip on the card do a fiendish calculation to come up with a different number which you copy to the screen to send back. So the real identification is not a static password, but the hidden 'method of calculating' (the algorithm) and the hidden numbers (unique to each card and never revealed) built into the chip on the card.
Because the critical information is nowhere on your computer, it cannot be hacked with key-loggers, trojan programs or other malware.
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It's not totally impossible to intercept the corresponding internet messages with a criminal method, but it is extremely difficult to do and has to be done in real-time; saving the data for later use is no good, because it is different each time.
Incidentally I found out yesterday, that for Lee's Dad, you can get one of these readers with audible output; it will speak the numbers to you through headphones or small speakers, so that you don't need to peer at the tiny screen.
Quote: billwill @ May 21 2013, 3:25 PM BSTThe description on the RBS website is difficult to view.
This description on the Barclays site is clearer. http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/HowtousePINsentry/P1242560253457It's a little battery powered box like a small pocket calculator into which you can insert your chipped Credit Card, Debit card or a Digital Banking card.
You then key in your PIN (of that card) to enable the card to respond.
A banking website will then instruct you which buttons to press and which numbers to enter. The result is a response number on its little screen which you copy onto a slot on the website to send back. The bank website then knows that you have that Credit/Debit/Banking card and you know the PIN, so it has the same security as the Hole-in-the-Wall cash machines, or a transaction at a shop or supermarket etc with an on-line card reader. The response is different each time, but the bank website knows what it ought to be. It's not a static password it is a challenge-respond system. The bank sends a number to your computer display, you copy that to the little reader; the reader plus chip on the card do a fiendish calculation to come up with a different number which you copy to the screen to send back. So the real identification is not a static password, but the hidden 'method of calculating' (the algorithm) and the hidden numbers (unique to each card and never revealed) built into the chip on the card.
Because the critical information is nowhere on your computer, it cannot be hacked with key-loggers, trojan programs or other malware.
~~~~~It's not totally impossible to intercept the corresponding internet messages with a criminal method, but it is extremely difficult to do and has to be done in real-time; saving the data for later use is no good, because it is different each time.
Incidentally I found out yesterday, that for Lee's Dad, you can get one of these readers with audible output; it will speak the numbers to you through headphones or small speakers, so that you don't need to peer at the tiny screen.
Of course when I was a lad theft was impossible as all our money was in the form of giant stone blocks weighing tonnes, try robbing one of those:-)
Bill is it true Stonehenge is actually your pension fund?
Quote: sootyj @ May 21 2013, 3:52 PM BSTBill is it true Stonehenge is actually your pension fund?
Nope they are not strong enogh.
As yet not found chambers in the Pyramids of Giza for me.
Bill are your sure you should be investing with a geezer?
"if you've been affected by Sharons story in tonights episode ..."
Yes I have actually - it bored the cock off me
The GOVERNMENT I think because they will be less jobs in the future for the young generations.Poor Kids and look what they are doing to the benefit system ridiculous!
The Government I hope your reading this.
When one is in a pub and they've got one of those big container things for empty bottles etc.
You're having a quiet drink and suddenly SMASH the poxy bar person
hurls a wine bottle in from ten yards ! Bastards !
Quote: Lee @ May 19 2013, 10:34 PM BSTI just had to pay two bills and something that would have took 2 minutes before - Select Payee > Select amount > Confirm. Now takes about 10 minutes and I had to use that thing 4 times! I hate it, I wish you could opt out
You can always go to the Bank.
Quote: lofthouse @ May 21 2013, 7:55 PM BST"if you've been affected by Sharons story in tonights episode ..."
Yes I have actually - it bored the cock off me
I've got into EastEnders in the last few weeks, I do like Sharon, she's does a very convincing breakdown bless her. Although I think maybe Phil has also swallowed something nasty by the sound of that gravel voice.
I love Sharon, tottering around all top heavy and pouting. She's funny.
Definitely. Her and Jack and the Max and Tanya storyline are my favourites, I get a bit bored of some of the other stuff like Michael and his baby, he's like some sort of cartoon svengali.
She reminds me of Miss Piggy