I sort of agree to an extent to be honest. It was good, but to me, the fact it stands out as so good among the other recent episodes reflects badly on the current average standard of Doctor Who.
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Quote: Pingl @ April 20 2013, 9:03 PM BSTGood episode, still all felt a bit rushed though, I think it really is time to reintroduce the two parter.
Agree, except in the past, two-parters have tended to suffer from being good in part 1, less good in part 2. Maybe an hour-long single episode would be better.
As it was, there was no time to develop the character of the time-traveller at all, so I didn't care much if she was saved; and the monsters' subplot was dealt with in such a cursory manner that it should have been omitted, imo.
In general, I've so far enjoyed this years' episodes a bit more than usual. Even the more uneven ones have had some great sequences.
Quote: harbin nicholson @ April 22 2013, 12:29 AM BSTThe only reason people seem to give this episode such high marks is because the moffat era has set the standard so low.
The only reason? I see.
Quote: zooo @ April 22 2013, 12:37 AM BSTThere we go, I knew there'd be someone along eventually!
But it's a valid point, zooo - you valid point hater!
The overall standard hasn't been great in recent years, and this half season has been pretty poor, so when a halfway decent episode comes along we tend to go a bit overboard about it.
I thought this was a lot better.
Nice and scary - big thumbs up from the kids.
Decent Sci-Fi concepts (wasn't there a Trek where people were existing at different 'speeds'?)
Good characters - esp. the scientist geezer.
BUT..
Too many concepts for 40 mins.
The writers seem to think it's OK to explain thing with one line and that's it - job done.
I find this unsatisfying.
Stick with one idea and explore that - let it breathe.
Clarification: Was it a special camera? How come it 'captured' the woman in the pocket universe without the 'empath' present? And if we were meant to end up with what was essentially a stop-motion film of the woman running, why was it not more important that they stood in exactly the same place each time?
I always seem to arrive at the end of each episode with a list of questions - can't help feeling that a little more time spent on few less concepts might avoid this.
Quote: Lazzard @ April 22 2013, 9:30 AM BSTToo many concepts for 40 mins.
Not sure I agree there; it was only really one thing turning into another. Ghost story (whish you know is never just going to be a ghost story, the supernatural doesn't exist in Who), that is revealed halfway through to be a trapped time traveller.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ April 22 2013, 9:37 AM BSTNot sure I agree there; it was only really one thing turning into another. Ghost story (whish you know is never just going to be a ghost story, the supernatural doesn't exist in Who), that is revealed halfway through to be a trapped time traveller.
Yeah, but then they threw in the 'love story' of the monster trying to find it''s mate - totally thrown away.
Quote: chipolata @ April 22 2013, 9:02 AM BSTBut it's a valid point, zooo - you valid point hater!
The overall standard hasn't been great in recent years, and this half season has been pretty poor, so when a halfway decent episode comes along we tend to go a bit overboard about it.
Did I say it wasn't a valid point...?
The part, however, that states it's the 'only' reason, is bollocks.
Isn't there a Charlie Chaplin film in which a ghostly figure appears in the background with what looks like a cellphone? Apparently t's a time traveller from the future caught on film. If Catskillz was still around he'd have a link to a YouTube video of it.
Quote: chipolata @ April 22 2013, 11:15 AM BSTIsn't there a Charlie Chaplin film in which a ghostly figure appears in the background with what looks like a cellphone? Apparently t's a time traveller from the future caught on film. If Catskillz was still around he'd have a link to a YouTube video of it.
Quote: chipolata @ April 22 2013, 11:15 AM BSTIsn't there a Charlie Chaplin film in which a ghostly figure appears in the background with what looks like a cellphone? Apparently t's a time traveller from the future caught on film. If Catskillz was still around he'd have a link to a YouTube video of it.
Modern Times?
Quote: Pingl @ April 22 2013, 11:27 AM BSTModern Times?
No.
see link two posts up.
Quote: Lazzard @ April 22 2013, 10:04 AM BSTYeah, but then they threw in the 'love story' of the monster trying to find it''s mate - totally thrown away.
Hm; I mean, I wouldn't really have been interested in seeing that explored much more, it was what it was and for me worked as was. I probably wouldn't have had that little twist myself. I kind of liked it, but I prob would have left it just as some horrible unknown monster.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ April 22 2013, 11:41 AM BSTI prob would have left it just as some horrible unknown monster.
Then your instincts are better than their's!
Just seemed like a last minute thought thrown in for good measure.
Quote: Pingl @ April 20 2013, 9:03 PM BSTIf Smith is to leave, which I think might help reinvigorate the show, I'd like it to go more serious in the vein of Pertwee, with a quality actor like Paterson Joseph bringing a bit of gravitas to the role.
What is it with you and Patterson Joseph? Are you Patterson Joseph?
I like him too but people are not ready for the Doctor eating a patty and smoking a fat one. Or calling Davros a 'rasclart'.