Quote: chipolata @ February 1 2013, 11:50 PM GMTI hear the scenes where Quentin Tarantino acts are pretty brutal too.
He does an Australian accent. 'nuff said.
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Wow.
I was baffled by the inclusion of rap songs...
Quote: Gordon Bennett @ February 2 2013, 8:43 AM GMTI was baffled by the inclusion of rap songs...
Why?
I don't like rap for a start...and it spoiled the Western feeling a bit for me.
Quote: Gordon Bennett @ February 2 2013, 8:58 AM GMTI don't like rap for a start...and it spoiled the Western feeling a bit for me.
Oh. I didn't have a problem with it myself. In a Clint Eastwood western maybe, but not a contemporary Tarantino Western starring a black protagonist, particularly as the lyrics were apropo. I can see how 50 Cent showing up and singing about bitches in the club would be distracting though.
I realize it was thematicaly appropriate because of the slavery subject...but I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to Western. In other scenes Tarantino tried to recreate the spaghetti western asthetics, so the inclusion of hip hop irritated me.
Quote: Gordon Bennett @ February 2 2013, 9:07 AM GMTI realize it was thematicaly appropriate because of the slavery subject...but I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to Western. In other scenes Tarantino tried to recreate the spaghetti western asthetics, so the inclusion of hip hop irritated me.
Fair enough. Having seen Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds I didn't go into this one thinking it was going to be strictly faithful to it's genre either.
Quote: Lee @ February 2 2013, 12:09 AM GMTHe does an Australian accent. 'nuff said.
I usually think he's fine in his films when he pops up; and actually thought he was great in From Dusk Till Dawn; but yeah, in this he's very poor. He's only in it for about two minutes though, and has about three lines.
Quote: Gordon Bennett @ February 2 2013, 8:58 AM GMTI don't like rap for a start...and it spoiled the Western feeling a bit for me.
As with the humour thing, that's just part of the Tarantino package. You're not going to get a straight ahead, traditional western. That's not why I go to see a Tarantino film.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ February 2 2013, 10:38 AM GMTI usually think he's fine in his films when he pops up; and actually thought he was great in From Dusk Till Dawn; but yeah, in this he's very poor. He's only in it for about two minutes though, and has about three lines.
He was great in that as the creepy psychopathic pervert. I'm not sure why that role came so naturally to him?
Quote: Matthew Stott @ February 2 2013, 10:38 AM GMTAs with the humour thing, that's just part of the Tarantino package. You're not going to get a straight ahead, traditional western. That's not why I go to see a Tarantino film.
Again, I completely agree with you on that...I liked his style for years. But the contrast bewtween western and rap was too striking for me (a hip hop song wouldn't have been so out of place in Pulp Fiction). And the humour appeared to be more natural or organic in his previous work. But this time some aspects seemed out of place (for me).
Maybe he realised he put himself into a certain corner at the end of the 90s and is now trying out new things...but not everything works for me.
EDIT: Spoiler:And honestly after Candie and Schultz were shot the film ended for me. Like the Christmas episode of Father Ted it went on and on.
Spoilers, Gordon!
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Fixed it.
Quote: chipolata @ February 1 2013, 2:38 PM GMTIt is a good film, though, that makes you think. But the too-passive characters in it are quite a bone of contention for a lot of people, not just me.
Watched Never Let Me Go last night along with Take Shelter (a grim double-bill if ever there was one).
Agree with you that the way the characters in NLMG accepted their fate was frustrating, but the more I think on it the more I think that frustration is what makes the film so poignant. I really wanted them to take that car and get the hell out of town, but I would have found that ending even more unsatisfying.
I did find a bit of the symbolism somewhat heavy-handed however - a group of people in an inescapable situation taking a day-trip to visit a beached boat? I was surprised they didn't fail to fly a kite while they were at it.
Shark Night. Jaws meets torture porn. I was hoping for the sleazy excesses of Prihana 3D, but it was all a bit toothless.