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I noticed in the teaser trailer for the next series we see the Sontaran running about. Does this mean he's going to be hanging round with the Doctor a bit more. I think the lady Silurian was spotted as well.

Quote: Ben @ December 26 2012, 9:46 PM GMT

I noticed in the teaser trailer for the next series we see the Sontaran running about. Does this mean he's going to be hanging round with the Doctor a bit more. I think the lady Silurian was spotted as well.

They're certainly back at some point.

I always liked the Cybermen I mean the Cybermen of the 70s and 80s looked pretty good compared to other shows. And they were wonderfully vicious, in some ways more sadistic and cruel than Daleks. Mixed with their decided low rent back story, basically space gypos wandering round and pouncing on proverbial lawn mowers. In some ways I think the were a lot better than the contemporaneous Borg who were I dunno more like a killer student union in space.
I think New Who cybermen have been a rather dull, wasted opportunity ugly and clunky when they should be menacing and sleek. (ok old Cybermen didn't look sleek). And lacking the essential enui and tragedy.

Did Clara come back to life? I assumed *POTENTIAL SPOILER IF TRUE* there are just loads of them scattered through time and space.

No, but it was made clear in the post show trailer she's the focus of the new show.

Quote: sootyj @ December 26 2012, 10:12 PM GMT

In some ways I think the were a lot better than the contemporaneous Borg who were I dunno more like a killer student union in space.

Cybermen had been around long before the Borg. I always wondered if someone on Trek used them as inspiration, as there are obvious similarities.

Oh yeh I know Cybermen have been around since the 60s and probably were an inspiration.

I think by and large Borg episodes were better, but Cybermen were better villains.

Yes, so it was ok for a Christmas Special, but why must we lower our expectations at this time of year? Why can't we have a proper Who?

Quote: Nogget @ December 27 2012, 8:01 AM GMT

Yes, so it was ok for a Christmas Special, but why must we lower our expectations at this time of year? Why can't we have a proper Who?

what, you mean no guest stars, no snow, no Christmas based aliens?

Well, unlike you lot I hadn't been drinking.

I don't know what to say to people who use the word 'brilliant' about such a structureless, toneless, tension-free mess, but I know that I don't want your voice heard or amplified because this risible crap will kill the show off in the end.

It's long past the point that Moffat should have been taken off the show, and his cupboard has been empty for a season and a half but now he can't even do the silly set pieces and the smutty repartee.

And it's all so embarrassing. Aren't you embarrassed for Moffat? A cockney ladies maid dressed up as emma peel, a governess made of ice saying 'that's the way to do it', a Sontaran dressed as a butler. A SONTARAN DRESSED AS A BUTLER. Bit of kill bill, bit of tipping the velvet, bit of Alan Moore. It's SAAADDD.

What would be better is if he started stealing plots rather than leitmotifs and conceits because he cannot tell a story for toffee. The Doctor turned up at the the site of this tank full of snow and just defeated it in one go. There was no plot, just a series of events. Resolved with usual 'wishing' or 'thinking away' the danger. It is beyond a joke.

I want a sontarran butler when I grow up!

Quote: Ben @ December 26 2012, 9:46 PM GMT

I noticed in the teaser trailer for the next series

I missed this, anyone got a linky-dink?

Quote: Godot Taxis @ December 27 2012, 3:07 PM GMT

Well, unlike you lot I hadn't been drinking.

I don't know what to say to people who use the word 'brilliant' about such a structureless, toneless, tension-free mess, but I know that I don't want your voice heard or amplified because this risible crap will kill the show off in the end.

It's long past the point that Moffat should have been taken off the show, and his cupboard has been empty for a season and a half but now he can't even do the silly set pieces and the smutty repartee.

And it's all so embarrassing. Aren't you embarrassed for Moffat? A cockney ladies maid dressed up as emma peel, a governess made of ice saying 'that's the way to do it', a Sontaran dressed as a butler. A SONTARAN DRESSED AS A BUTLER. Bit of kill bill, bit of tipping the velvet, bit of Alan Moore. It's SAAADDD.

What would be better is if he started stealing plots rather than leitmotifs and conceits because he cannot tell a story for toffee. The Doctor turned up at the the site of this tank full of snow and just defeated it in one go. There was no plot, just a series of events. Resolved with usual 'wishing' or 'thinking away' the danger. It is beyond a joke.

I too was sober, and am not known to be uncriticle on Dr Who, but brilliant was the word. OK the plot wasn't up to much, but aside from that it was the best I've seen in a long long time,it had humour and colourful characters, the more I see of the Sontaran, Lizard Lady and friend and Clara the happier I'll be. It had a lovely light touch and didn't take itself to seriously and wasn't to thick with plot and cod science, just a good roistering yarn.

Can't we just have a straight forward story, and avoid the story arc?

[quote name="Badge" post="944587" date="December 26 2012, 9:26 PM GMT"

On the plus side the new companion seems fit [/quote]
And that was what what sold the episode for me.

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