Such a bizarre and depressing outcome.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 1,093
Sad if she did kill herself over the hoax phone call nonsense.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/07/brother-admits-killing-eastenders-gemma-mccluskie
Has anyone in recent years pleaded guilty when they've killed someone? Shall we just get rid of the murder charge unless you're caught being a professional assassin? Of course it was a 'loss of control' you sadistic f**king creep, otherwise you and all the other murderers would be strolling around killing people all the time. What is the point of bringing in various experts unless there is genuine doubt as to the capability or responsibility of the accused who is admitting manslaughter? Every time I read about a murder, and it is murder to purposefully take someone's life against their will, there's some supposed grounds or other for diminished responsibility. Not only does it make the people who may well have diminished responsibility more vulnerable by using it in every bloody case, but it's more time and money spent, and for what?- I hope no-one is going to give someone a lesser sentence regardless of how it's tarted up when they're capable of doing something like this. Seeing a red mist and finding you've strangled someone in a heated, scrapping row is dreadful but is a bit more understandable than killing someone and removing their limbs and head before discarding them. Course he's got amnesia.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ December 7 2012, 12:55 PM GMTAre we now seeing the settling of old scores via the medium of sex crime allegations?
The Assange defence?
Quote: AJGO @ December 7 2012, 3:38 PM GMThttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/07/brother-admits-killing-eastenders-gemma-mccluskie
Has anyone in recent years pleaded guilty when they've killed someone? Shall we just get rid of the murder charge unless you're caught being a professional assassin? Of course it was a 'loss of control' you sadistic f**king creep, otherwise you and all the other murderers would be strolling around killing people all the time. What is the point of bringing in various experts unless there is genuine doubt as to the capability or responsibility of the accused who is admitting manslaughter? Every time I read about a murder, and it is murder to purposefully take someone's life against their will, there's some supposed grounds or other for diminished responsibility. Not only does it make the people who may well have diminished responsibility more vulnerable by using it in every bloody case, but it's more time and money spent, and for what?- I hope no-one is going to give someone a lesser sentence regardless of how it's tarted up when they're capable of doing something like this. Seeing a red mist and finding you've strangled someone in a heated, scrapping row is dreadful but is a bit more understandable than killing someone and removing their limbs and head before discarding them. Course he's got amnesia.
I wish you would be on every jury ever. Get the f**kers in jail!
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ December 7 2012, 3:17 PM GMTThe news has just reported that one of the nurses in the Royal hospital that took the hoax phone call during Kate's morning sickness has been found dead.
If the obvious cause is the actual one that is just too sad.
Quote: AJGO @ December 7 2012, 3:38 PM GMTI hope no-one is going to give someone a lesser sentence regardless of how it's tarted up when they're capable of doing something like this. Seeing a red mist and finding you've strangled someone in a heated, scrapping row is dreadful but is a bit more understandable than killing someone and removing their limbs and head before discarding them. Course he's got amnesia.
It is certainly a tricky one. The bible, heavy metal music, video games and pornography have all been used to help people get away with reduced sentences on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
A lot of crims always go 'not guilty' on the off chance that the police have screwed up on some small bit of evidence so they can get away on a technicality.
If a beaten wife kills her husband or someone shoots a burglar, I can definitly see grounds for extenuating circumstances and why it isn't automatically murder. So kind of glad the law is a bit fuzzy with murder charges.
The royals and the hospital should have had as press officer this is just irresponsible
OH dear, so very sad, feel depressed.
Quote: Tursiops @ December 7 2012, 3:43 PM GMTIf the obvious cause is the actual one that is just too sad.
What is the obvious cause? You don't think Kate's morning sickness is like a lethal bug, like the killer monkey pox in Outbreak and shit?
If Wills and Kate have a shred of decency they will name the baby Nurse Jacintha Saldanha.
Quote: shaggy292 @ December 7 2012, 3:54 PM GMTIf Wills and Kate have a shred of decency they will name the baby Nurse Jacintha Saldanha.
Full name: Nurse Jacintha Saldanha Who Would Still Be Alive If This Country Joined The 21st Century And Didn't Have A Monarchy.
Jaci for short.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ December 7 2012, 3:46 PM GMTIt is certainly a tricky one. The bible, heavy metal music, video games and pornography have all been used to help people get away with reduced sentences on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
A lot of crims always go 'not guilty' on the off chance that the police have screwed up on some small bit of evidence so they can get away on a technicality.
If a beaten wife kills her husband or someone shoots a burglar, I can definitly see grounds for extenuating circumstances and why it isn't automatically murder. So kind of glad the law is a bit fuzzy with murder charges.
In AJGO's when-I'm-in-charge world, those cases would be self-defence. If you kill someone driving within the speed limit and sober and with the car MOTed but they haven't looked where they're going then you don't go to jail and don't need to plead manslaughter. Manslaughter is for when you're responsible for someone being dead (against their will- euthanasia is a different shaped potato) but you didn't intend at any point to kill them. Sentences will be judged according to how much you could've predicted the outcome and what force was used and what history of violence or irresponsibility one has. If you murder someone, like in a case where you've removed their head and limbs, then please stop wasting the country's money and time.
Quote: shaggy292 @ December 7 2012, 3:54 PM GMTIf Wills and Kate have a shred of decency they will name the baby Nurse Jacintha Saldanha.
Not the most manly of boy's names admittedly.
Is there a distinction between the act of killing somebody and the act of covering it up?
On the nurse issue, hopefully it will mean fewer prank calls in the name of comedy. A bit of a high price to pay, mind.