True wit is always divisive
Your dismissal only raises me back up
Call me lame and I through away my crutches and hop with pride
Trying to get into stand up, check my material? Page 3
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ November 19 2012, 8:28 PM GMTThis is one of the few places you will get true critique - good or bad
Crit doesn't have to be mean though; I've never recieved anything nasty in a knockback, or set of rewrite notes, from a proper telly producer. Even when they hated a script. It seems to me that would be very unprofessional behaviour.
To be honest I've had as bad professionally and I've had to decide if I thought they were being an asshole or harsh but fair
I learned from both
I don't claim to be any kind of an expert just hjonest
Harridan is absolutely spot-on. Unfortunately, it's an issue I have raised a number of times in the past, but the perpetrators are too thick and/or uncaring to alter their behaviour: you simply cannot be as brash and upfront to a new member as you would be to someone of long-standing who you know well.
You may feel perfectly happy walking up to an old friend in a pub and greeting them with "How you doing, you grumpy old bastard?", but address a waiter in a restaurant like that and it won't just be chicken in your coq soup.
Some members here give good, considered advice. Others do not. Others give good advice but have all the bedside manner of Jimmy Savile.
Quote: Aaron @ November 19 2012, 9:48 PM GMTcoq soup.
Can I use that in the "Larks" thread? 
I watched the first third of the vid, because it was well put together but showcased more all round production, editing, visuality type stuff than finished stand up bits.
I just thought that you'd worked more on the set-ups and the loose leads, without working out what could be the beats of the joke and how is it put together.
eg, an early line about spelling the word 'embarrassed' that's your set-up, it's a tricky spelling.. but then you move on... there's no punchline.. When Patrice O'Neal did a thing on his last special about how he can't spell 'Restaurant'..
Similar set up, and funny and true, but then the joke is how he tags that premise with stuff about how even if there was a gun to his mum's head.. he'd be like 'R... e... s... t... err, errr, sorry mum, I'm trying, I'm really trying... is there an 'e'? Or on a 'A'? Oh shit! Bye mum!"
Etc, and that's how he explores the simple idea of a hard to spell word, and that's the joke: The exaggaration... Most important thing in a joke is the exaggaration, that's what makes something funny in stand up, I think.
Anyway, public feedback stings but it's exactly what a person needs if they're gonna take things seriously and not just clog the path of others.
So go through and keep exploring each bit and find the jokes, they're there in any topic, it's just about finding them. I think.
Good luck and seeyaround.