OUCH! You guys are so cynical, blimey, did'nt think it would feel so bad, Well I appreciate cards, even 3 words- so sorry you have had such bad experience?
Any women like to add?, I'm shocked by this anger?
OUCH! You guys are so cynical, blimey, did'nt think it would feel so bad, Well I appreciate cards, even 3 words- so sorry you have had such bad experience?
Any women like to add?, I'm shocked by this anger?
Men are crap at expressing feelings or emotion, even on paper. We see it as hard work. If on the whole we seem empty headed, slightly retarded and emotionally stunted, that is because we are
Quote: Pingl @ November 10 2012, 10:40 AM GMTMen are crap at expressing feelings or emotion, even on paper.
We're psychologically conditioned throughout our lives to restrict and control our emotions and surpress our violent and sexual natures by society.
Even as very young children, we're told -
Don't cry
Be a man
Be brave
Stop being such a baby
Be Mummy's little soldier
Stop snivelling
Don't tell on others
Stand up for yourself
This mental conditioning is reinforced with physical conditioning - rough sports, fighting, bullies, being smacked by our parents more then our female siblings, etc.
The end result is that we're turned into unthinking, unfeeling, machines that never feel fear or fatigue or pain - we actually do, but we are taught to hide it for fear of being ridiculed.
Society continues the conditioning throughout our entire lives and ensures that we pass it on to the next generation, however it is a constant struggle for the male of the species being inundated with conflicting messages that our counter-intuitive to our psyches and biological imperatives.
So apologies for forgetting to buy you a card, but how about a big thank for not murder-raping everyone on the Tube this morning.
It's tragic isn't it. Of course there could be an aspect of I can't be bothered with all that stuff too. Men like to problem solve, when they hear women complain they want to solve the problem, women simply want us to listen to the problem. Causes no end of problems. We are also incredibly anal, and train spotters by nature, we tend to focus on our interests to the exclusion of any one elses. Still Vive la Difference
Or, put another way. Men are whingers.
Quote: zooo @ November 10 2012, 12:09 PM GMTOr, put another way. Men are whingers.
I think that is a trait both genders share.
Quote: zooo @ November 10 2012, 12:09 PM GMTOr, put another way. Men are whingers.
Being admonished by a woman for complaining is classic conditioning (and pretty damn rich IMHO). Once again our matriarchal oppressors are silencing our need to express ourselves freely. You are like Nazis with tits.
On a slightly more serious note, if you want to see conditioning in action, just watch any of those 'You've Been Framed' style shows - if a man falls off a bike and lands on his face, the audience all laugh widly. If a woman falls off a bike and lands on her face, the audience all make a pitiful 'ooooh' sound.
It's funnny because men don't feel pain ever.
So we've established that of the men who responded here, 100% didn't like cards. What about cut flowers?
( I learned a new thing about flower farms today.)
The UK greeting card market is the largest in the world, per head of population than any other.
The market is worth £1.4bn yearly and the industry employs 100,000 people.
85% of cards are bought by people who don't own a real penis.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ November 10 2012, 12:20 PM GMTOn a slightly more serious note, if you want to see conditioning in action, just watch any of those 'You've Been Framed' style shows - if a man falls off a bike and lands on his face, the audience all laugh widly. If a woman falls off a bike and lands on her face, the audience all make a pitiful 'ooooh' sound.
True, and men are always labelled as being the f**kwit member of the family when it comes to TV ads, such as when they go shopping or attempt DIY.
This Terry and June approach, for me, is played-out but unfortunately it shows that women AND men 'buy into' this lazy brain washing drivel from wanky 20 something media types who have hardly any real life experience since graduating and now living in a rented one bed flat in the smoke.
As soon as a hot (18 year old) schoolgirl in the Kingsmill ad is leered at by guys - it's an outrage.
The ASA had 19...yes a whole nineteen, n,n,n,n,n,n,n nineteen complaints ffs! How many millions have seen it? I can imagine though the chattering classes when it's aired into their living rooms..
MRS CHATTERING CLASS: I don't know Denis, it's disgraceful isnt it? Denis? Denis?
DENIS: (disappearing into the hall) Err, I just remembered I left my pipe in the garden shed dear...
All us guys should apologise for having cocks and balls, and for doing what we are genetically programmed to do - want to shag sexy bints who 'give it some'.
And strangely only 10% by those that do?
Who are you actually ranting at?
I have no idea
Lol.
(I meant Brian, btw...)
I still have no idea
Well I thought the tirade against people who pigeon-hole guys as f**kwits in ads, and those who can't believe that a guy would get the horn when a sexy young bit gives it large on TV was a bit of a clue.
Still, never mind.