Emmm, what are we all thinking at this stage?
Derren Brown The System
I'm thinking what you on about? 
This bit is deflection....
I hope the program was crap. I was planning to watch it, but I remembered that Echo Beach starring the sexilicious Raquel Cassidy was on ITV1 at the same time, and thus I went with the latter.
She only appeared in one scene, and she didn't look that fabulous either. I've been cheated out of a wank! 
Perhaps you could watch Derron later then 
I've complained about this programme (I never have ever before). Firstly because its effectively him setting up a pyramid scheme, making people (7000 initially )bet money on horses and then offereing to repay the bets when they lose. Most people won't bother to go through the system the production company have set up, which he as a man of percentages will know. Fraud in my honest opinion
Secondly they showed a horse race in which a horse died, and then even showed the moment when the canvas was put around the body so it could be killed. Perhaps acceptable for a live show, but a pre recorded entertainment show it was sick.
Quote: Rob B @ February 1, 2008, 10:40 PMSecondly they showed a horse race in which a horse died, and then even showed the moment when the canvas was put around the body so it could be killed. Perhaps acceptable for a live show, but a pre recorded entertainment show it was sick.
Quote: Ray Dawson @ February 1, 2008, 10:19 PMPerhaps you could watch Derron later then
Great idea!
it was alright but a bit pointless. He just likes showing off like that blaine fella.
Quote: jacparov @ February 1, 2008, 10:52 PMit was alright but a bit pointless. He just likes showing off like that blaine fella.
Ditto!
What? What? What? Was that on tonight????
How did I not know Derren Brown was on TV? He is undoubtedly the best illusionist in the country and an amazing psychologist. I love everything he has ever done.
this really wasn't upto his usual standard for me charisma, basically he claimed to have a 'system' for picking winning horses. You bet on every horse. Not rocket science. Sorry, Rocket engineering.
Quote: Charisma @ February 2, 2008, 12:41 AMWhat? What? What? Was that on tonight????
How did I not know Derren Brown was on TV? He is undoubtedly the best illusionist in the country and an amazing psychologist. I love everything he has ever done.
He didn't want you to know it was on. Because your avatar is a girl.
Because she is fit! When Hayden stops being damn hot, then she deserves to be removed! It's better that it's a picture of her than some bloke... 
I guarentee that if you go into work on monday and convince one set of workers to bet on one horse, and a second lot to bet on another, and a third on another. When only one set wins you won't be considered an genius entertainer, but might find you get kicked in the balls.
He got over 7000 people to place a bet they wouldn't of. I wonder how many gambling addictions he may have kicked off. Hmmm all in the name of entertainment huh
Quote: Rob B @ February 1, 2008, 10:40 PMI've complained about this programme (I never have ever before). Firstly because its effectively him setting up a pyramid scheme, making people (7000 initially )bet money on horses and then offereing to repay the bets when they lose. Most people won't bother to go through the system the production company have set up, which he as a man of percentages will know. Fraud in my honest opinion
Secondly they showed a horse race in which a horse died, and then even showed the moment when the canvas was put around the body so it could be killed. Perhaps acceptable for a live show, but a pre recorded entertainment show it was sick.
I have just watched it, and yet again Derren Brown has not let me down.
First of all - no horse was killed in the making of the programme (the one you refer to, Nevada Royal, is actually entered for a valuable race at the Cheltenham Festival in March, which you may consider quite a biblical comeback).
I thought this was an extremely responsible programme, rather than an irresponsible one. Yes, it showed how pyramid schemes work, and that they will always have a winner. But it also showed how mad a number of people is required to lose to make it work, and that you can never be in control of your own destiny. It was very good popular entertainment, if you ask me - but also educational.
And it certainly put paid to the myth of there being a foolproof "system" of winning on the horses. Isn't that a valuable service to deter irresponsible gambling, rather than encourage it?
EDIT: I also meant to say I thought it was pretty smart programming to make this now, in the light of all last year's rumpus over TV editing. All he was doing was show how easily people can be manipulated by editing. I thought it was smart television, and I take my hat off to him.