Quote: sootyj @ October 5 2012, 9:06 AM BSTWhere's Holly?
Seems unfair the least succesful cast member didn't get a look in.
But it seems that the next episode is mostly about the ship's computer, though it is not Holly.
Hmm, we already had an episode with a harsh ship computer before.
Quote: billwill @ October 5 2012, 1:35 PM BSTHmm, we already had an episode with a harsh ship computer before.
But that was Holly doing an April Fools joke.
I didn't like the look of next weeks episode, but hopefully it'll continue to be funny.
Bit confused why 'twat' is offensive but calling someone a Smeg Head is perfectly acceptable? But nonetheless, was just wondering how this show would have been received without the twenty years of fan love behind it.
If this was a brand new sitcom, would we still be lavishing it with praise? As it was only mostly shit instead of being total shit, we probably would thanks to the bleakness of the current comedy landscape.
That's depressing. 
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 5 2012, 1:46 PM BSTIf this was a brand new sitcom, would we still be lavishing it with praise?
Hard to say after one episode. I am pretty sure that I would still have chuckled enough to want to see the next episode.
Red Dwarf has always been different to anything else out there. Its always been a juvenile sci-fi piss take and it kinda sounds like you had higher expectations.
Care to explain why?
Quote: Bob Hicks @ October 5 2012, 2:07 PM BSTCare to explain why?
One word: Hyperspace
Could I have a few more words please?
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 5 2012, 1:46 PM BSTBit confused why 'twat' is offensive but calling someone a Smeg Head is perfectly acceptable?
Smeg Head was invented by Red Dwarf, wasn't it? I think Grant and Naylor wanted a word that sounded like a swear word but wasn't, so they could use it as such.
And, actually, when the polymorph took Lister's anger, he did say he wanted to "get out there and twat it!", so it's hardly the fall in standards everyone's saying it is.
Dan
Quote: swerytd @ October 5 2012, 2:33 PM BSTSmeg Head was invented by Red Dwarf, wasn't it? I think Grant and Naylor wanted a word that sounded like a swear word but wasn't, so they could use it as such.
Naff off, you nerk! 
Quote: swerytd @ October 5 2012, 2:33 PM BSTSmeg Head was invented by Red Dwarf, wasn't it? I think Grant and Naylor wanted a word that sounded like a swear word but wasn't, so they could use it as such.
And, actually, when the polymorph took Lister's anger, he did say he wanted to "get out there and twat it!", so it's hardly the fall in standards everyone's saying it is.
Dan
Are lot's of people saying that? I think it's more that it stood out as quite an 'un-Dwarfy' insult; so it stuck out a bit. 'Twat it' seems a bit different to calling someone a twat, also.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 5 2012, 3:00 PM BST'Twat it' seems a bit different to calling someone a twat, also.
Well, I'm sure Lee will happily watch it with his son, now you've made the distinction.
Dan
Quote: swerytd @ October 5 2012, 2:33 PM BSTSmeg Head was invented by Red Dwarf, wasn't it? I think Grant and Naylor wanted a word that sounded like a swear word but wasn't, so they could use it as such.
And, actually, when the polymorph took Lister's anger, he did say he wanted to "get out there and twat it!", so it's hardly the fall in standards everyone's saying it is.
Dan
For some reason though when 'twat' is used as a verb it's more palatable than a noun. For instance I got away with selling a greeting card idea with a bloke playing golf, where the caption went something like "After weighing up all the variables, cross-winds, correct weight distribution and the perfect driver, Jeremy just decided to twat it."
But if I'd said "After weighing up all the variables, cross-winds, correct weight distribution and the perfect driver, Jeremy sliced it as usual, like the twat he is", it'd never have got sold. Partly because it's not as funny but mostly because it's a lot harsher. I don't know why, it just is.
Quote: swerytd @ October 5 2012, 3:04 PM BSTWell, I'm sure Lee will happily watch it with his son, now you've made the distinction.
Dan
Where's a pic of Vic & Bob brandishing their handbags when you need one?
I take your point now: I find using 'Brandish' as a noun is far more offensive than a verb.
Dan
Quote: Bob Hicks @ October 5 2012, 2:10 PM BSTCould I have a few more words please?
Sorry. 
I meant: Hyperdrive - a BBC sci-fi comedy starring Nick Frost and Miranda Hart. It had a number of the same elements of Red Dwarf but wasn't really very funny. So just having a sci-fi hook isn't enough to make a winning sitcom.
My question still stands, if this had been a brand new sitcom, would it still be receiving the same level of praise?
Quote: swerytd @ October 5 2012, 2:33 PM BSTSmeg Head was invented by Red Dwarf, wasn't it? I think Grant and Naylor wanted a word that sounded like a swear word but wasn't, so they could use it as such.
Explaining what 'smeg' is to a young child seems much more embarrassing then explaining 'twat'.
'One is a lady's woo-woo, the other is a build up of cheesy old spunk that has accumulated under your foreskin'.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ October 5 2012, 4:03 PM BSTSorry.
I meant: Hyperdrive - a BBC sci-fi comedy starring Nick Frost and Miranda Hart. It had a number of the same elements of Red Dwarf but wasn't really very funny. So just having a sci-fi hook isn't enough to make a winning sitcom.
My question still stands, if this had been a brand new sitcom, would it still be receiving the same level of praise?
It's hard to say. I suppose you'd need a few people who've never seen it before to give their opinion without the benefit of nostalgia etc. My own feeling though is that I'd enjoy it and watch it again. It had a few good laughs. I'm quite easily-pleased though. If a comedy makes me giggle a few times, I'll watch it again and forgive its flaws. Conversely you can present me with an incredibly-original, well-acted, well-directed, amazingly-plotted, slick comedy and if I don't laugh I won't watch it again.
