Hi all
Didn't get any response to the last video but now have a direct utube address.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfLgPXtRPk
The Innocence of Mohammed reviewed by Dissident Film critic Betty Burka
Trust you enjoy
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The Innocence of Mohammed original footage
Thats really not very good.
Just a dull collection of obvious jokes with annoying voices.
About as controversial and coherent as Bruce Forsyth
I felt a bit like the creator wanted to punish me for pressing the link.
If I ever get raped, I will apply the same sense of detachment that got me through this video.
The voices are hideous.
Well that's going better than I expected at least we got you through the Video this time.
Always great to get constructive feedback. Great you enjoyed it.
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No I didn't enjoy it.
But let me deconstruct it a little more.
1 the jokes are incredibly obvious. "this film about Muslims is very cheaply made so lets redub it so everyone says how cheaply made" You could reframe it as a home video for Youve been framed, or do a mock praising review. Anything with a scintilla of wit or originality.
2 The character of the angry Muslim woman complaining about it. Is aping not satirizing. There's no end of videos of angry videos that are real. It's like having a video of someone who looks like George Osbourne discussing the budget. Why would that be funny in and of its self?
3 Why do you think people who can't do funny voices, doing funny voices would be funny?
4 Actually watched bits of it again you have an awful ear for dialogue. Characters again and again saying what they're doing.
5 If you're going to write something so long at least go somewhere with it, have some structure.
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BSTNo I didn't enjoy it.
Its a type of humour called Irony. What makes you think I give a F*** whether you enjoyed it? You were meant to watch it , which you did. Its a 'Shock Viral' not an episode of one of your beloved Sitcoms.
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BSTBut let me deconstruct it a little more..
OK but your not going to like the response, you were almost close to a clean get away.
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BST1 the jokes are incredibly obvious. "this film about Muslims is very cheaply made so lets redub it so everyone says how cheaply made" You could reframe it as a home video for Youve been framed, or do a mock praising review. Anything with a scintilla of wit or originality.
No. You have completely missed the Joke , which is no surprise as you are a Political imbecile.
What you were watching were clips from a film called 'The innocence of Mohammed' It was created by a right wing Christian fundamentalist called Sam Bacile (May be a pseudonym)
He tricked his cast/Actors into believing that the film was about 'Master George' He then altered the vioces in Post to insult Islam, Mohammed and the Koran and hung his film crew out to dry.
So that's what the gag is about
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BST"2 The character of the angry Muslim woman complaining about it. Is aping not satirizing. There's no end of videos of angry videos that are real. It's like having a video of someone who looks like George Osbourne discussing the budget. Why would that be funny in and of its self?
Well obviously anything writen by George Osbourne I would find helerious, remind me to do a 'Mash-Up'
Just to make clear that the 'Burka' is a modern invention and is not mentioned in the Koran. It has no religious significance other than being a symbol of Female repression. And as no-one at APCS would want anything banned we feel comfortable ridiculing this oppressive garment.
The gag, all be it a simple one, is that she is condemning the film production its terrible SFX and off course the badly over dumbed voices. So we are questioning your prejudices through irony.
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BST"3 Why do you think people who can't do funny voices, doing funny voices would be funny?
I don't know but you were making a fairly good job of praising 'Dr Who and the dinosaurs robots' last week and I used the same 'Voice Modulation effects'. The gag was that they were meant to be silly as its a type of humour called Satire, the Joke being aimed at Sam Bacile.
Hey I even borrowed some of Dr Who's gags but instead of just fumbling with our balls in our pockets we went straight for the Clitoris
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BST4 Actually watched bits of it again you have an awful ear for dialogue. Characters again and again saying what they're doing.
OK we got you to watch it again. Success at least you were trying to start and think.
There was no depth to the dialogue what so ever... It was a MASH-UP. By its very nature I simply took what was there, tried to lip sync it as best as possible and give it a twist, in order to highlight its ridiculousness. Whatever came into our heads, a Mash-up is a 24hr piss take (Shouldnt take longer to edit than that).. Its purpose is as an Internet Shock Viral nothing more nothing less.
Quote: sootyj @ September 18 2012, 6:40 AM BST5 If you're going to write something so long at least go somewhere with it, have some structure.
If you have any complaints about the length please send them to Sam Bacile. I simply copied it off the internet frame for frame as a spoof. The only visuals I changed was re-syncing the Donkey to Mitt Romney. Admittedly the gag that the Republicans would vote for a Monkey if it had a Republican Nomination is an old one, but given his recent speech I thought I'd give it a new context.
Right wing Christian Fundamentalism was after all the butt of the joke.
Anyway I'll leave you to head back to your comfy middle class sofa and GCSE Media studies teaching.
Just to note that since posting this 'Viral' last night about 'Ten Oclock' its had 60 hits and growing which is already twice as fast as the 'Hillsborough Mash-up' so we are growing audience. Virals can take a while to build so its a different way of creating audience.
MAny thanks for your comments I trust this addresses some of your concerns
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It was ok, the voices weren't brilliant but there lies the rub.
You are making stuff as an amateur with willing helpers to display the concept yet the readers are looking for the finished article.
When posters put stuff up in critique I look for the content, if its in showcase then you're stating its the finished article so I never comment as the clip represents a finished article.
This has legs, if you can tweek it and perhaps give each character a voice that your helpers can do it might help, the black woman being a Geordie or scouser works for me.
Kudos for a lot of effort and I would bat on with this as an exercise in redubbing as I do like redubbed clips when they're funny and this could be.
The trouble is, nothing's as funny as the original - including this.
It's a bit like taking one of those "conspiracy vids" off YouTube and re-voicing it - you can't improve on perfection.
And if you don't give a f**k whether people like it, Critique might not be the best place for it.
Just spam everyone like those "Alternative National Anthem" bozos.
Quote: Punk Anarcho @ September 18 2012, 10:02 AM BSTIts a type of humour called Irony. What makes you think I give a F*** whether you enjoyed it? You were meant to watch it , which you did. Its a 'Shock Viral' not an episode of one of your beloved Sitcoms.
OK but your not going to like the response, you were almost close to a clean get away.
No. You have completely missed the Joke , which is no surprise as you are a Political imbecile.
What you were watching were clips from a film called 'The innocence of Mohammed' It was created by a right wing Christian fundamentalist called Sam Bacile (May be a pseudonym)
He tricked his cast/Actors into believing that the film was about 'Master George' He then altered the vioces in Post to insult Islam, Mohammed and the Koran and hung his film crew out to dry.
So that's what the gag is about
Well obviously anything writen by George Osbourne I would find helerious, remind me to do a 'Mash-Up'
Just to make clear that the 'Burka' is a modern invention and is not mentioned in the Koran. It has no religious significance other than being a symbol of Female repression. And as no-one at APCS would want anything banned we feel comfortable ridiculing this oppressive garment.
The gag, all be it a simple one, is that she is condemning the film production its terrible SFX and off course the badly over dumbed voices. So we are questioning your prejudices through irony.
I don't know but you were making a fairly good job of praising 'Dr Who and the dinosaurs robots' last week and I used the same 'Voice Modulation effects'. The gag was that they were meant to be silly as its a type of humour called Satire, the Joke being aimed at Sam Bacile.
Hey I even borrowed some of Dr Who's gags but instead of just fumbling with our balls in our pockets we went straight for the Clitoris
OK we got you to watch it again. Success at least you were trying to start and think.
There was no depth to the dialogue what so ever... It was a MASH-UP. By its very nature I simply took what was there, tried to lip sync it as best as possible and give it a twist, in order to highlight its ridiculousness. Whatever came into our heads, a Mash-up is a 24hr piss take (Shouldnt take longer to edit than that).. Its purpose is as an Internet Shock Viral nothing more nothing less.
If you have any complaints about the length please send them to Sam Bacile. I simply copied it off the internet frame for frame as a spoof. The only visuals I changed was re-syncing the Donkey to Mitt Romney. Admittedly the gag that the Republicans would vote for a Monkey if it had a Republican Nomination is an old one, but given his recent speech I thought I'd give it a new context.
Right wing Christian Fundamentalism was after all the butt of the joke.
Anyway I'll leave you to head back to your comfy middle class sofa and GCSE Media studies teaching.
Just to note that since posting this 'Viral' last night about 'Ten Oclock' its had 60 hits and growing which is already twice as fast as the 'Hillsborough Mash-up' so we are growing audience. Virals can take a while to build so its a different way of creating audience.
MAny thanks for your comments I trust this addresses some of your concerns
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Now that was almost funny.
Edit it down a bit but the enraged, pseudo leftist comic with too much Boom town rats on his ipod is almost there.
By the way since when was mysognistic and islamophobic humour either Punk or Anarchist?
Quote: Lazzard @ September 18 2012, 10:29 AM BSTThe trouble is, nothing's as funny as the original - including this.
It's a bit like taking one of those "conspiracy vids" off YouTube and re-voicing it - you can't improve on perfection.
And if you don't give a f**k whether people like it, Critique might not be the best place for it.
Just spam everyone like those "Alternative National Anthem" bozos.
Hi Lazzard
I'm afraid I was bought up in a school of thought that thinks 'Never Apologise for your art'. It just is.
That said this site possess a conundrum, Show case or Critique? And I have nothing against criticising something or differing opinions chewing a crud.
I have some sympathy for your suggestion nothing is funnier than the original, but that's often why they deliver so many avenues and paths for fun.(Theres a new show on: 'Jerry Springer'esq' where they get the guest to fight it out on a springy floor.. You can't make it up?)
I think Teddy gets the beef when he says a 'Dubbing exercise' a Mash-Up is the musical equivalent of 'Jam'
Digi some stuff in, play around with it, and shoot it out. Some times working fast can throw up some interesting Seendipity. Its just great to spend some time playing in edit sometimes, otherwise you get stale and end up like poor old 'Sootyj' who still thinks comedy has boundaries he can figure out and write into his Filo Fax.
Anyway thanks for feedback
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Whew, someone posted in the wrong forum, what a mess. AP Scene indeed!
Quote: David Bussell @ September 18 2012, 11:20 AM BSTWhew, someone posted in the wrong forum, what a mess. AP Scene indeed!
Explain? APScene
Quote: Punk Anarcho @ September 18 2012, 11:24 AM BSTExplain? APScene
A Pee Scene.
Ha ha ha ha hah hah ha hahahahahahha ha ha ha!
*sighs, wipes tear from eye*
Ha!
ah ha hahahahaha ha ha ahaha ha!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah................... Jesus.
I just loosely think critique=scripts, showcase=videos/audio.
Not sure where to place things like "Nice", where it was videos of people reading scripts - perhaps in the recycle bin.
With scripts, I allow quite a lot of lee-way for the author to later explaining 'why' it will be funny, and of course a lot of the piece still exists in his mind (actors, timing, atmosphere, music etc.).
However, this is the finished filmed piece, and thus shouldn't require a long essay on 'why' it is funny/good/satirical. At this point, the audience should be on his/her own to decide.*
* On occasions, maybe subsequently filling in a gap in the viewer's knowledge is OK (such as the 'white bicycle' thread below). However, if enough people don't know this knowledge, the creator has made a joke on 7% of the population will understand.
Quote: David Bussell @ September 18 2012, 11:28 AM BSTA Pee Scene.
Ha ha ha ha hah hah ha hahahahahahha ha ha ha!
*sighs, wipes tear from eye*
Ha!
ah ha hahahahaha ha ha ahaha ha!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah................... Jesus.
If your going to arrive six weeks late to a party its polite to bring a bottle (you can Pee in that) APS