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Quote: Tony Cowards @ August 16 2012, 12:28 AM BST

When I was at Uni all the "cool" kids smoked Marlborough cigarettes because they sponsored Formula One and had the "cool" red and white packaging.

If packaging and branding wasn't effective companies wouldn't plough millions of pounds into it.

Exactly - the government if they were being true to their thoughts would actually allow more branding/sponsorship. That way more money would be spent by cigarette manufacturers on advertising/sponsorship/promotion. More importantly though tax revenue would increase massively.

Personally, I think if a large sector of society are prepared to be ripped of regally by the tax man in order to stink like an ashtray/lose dignity by standing outside public buildings smoking/bring themselves to an early death/etc etc by smoking - then fine - bring it on!

The government show a profit even when health treatment for smokers v their tax paid through smoking is calculated = a right result!

It keeps the tax bills of non-smokers down by doing so - and takes pressure of the pension time bomb due to the fact people are willing to pay for reducing their life span.

So - no to white packs...yes to even more seductive packaging.

:) nice comment, do you drive? or drink alchohol?

Quote: dellas @ August 15 2012, 4:33 AM BST

What is the point? I can still buy fags?

Nothing as bad as a sanctimonious ex-smoker, except perhaps a first-time parent raving about their "amazing" child. However, smoking is dumb. Any action to curb smoking is good. Plain packaging and not-on-display won't stop some kids from starting smoking, but it may make them less likely to buy pack after pack and get hooked.

Quote: Tony Cowards @ August 16 2012, 12:28 AM BST

When I was at Uni all the "cool" kids smoked Marlborough cigarettes because they sponsored Formula One and had the "cool" red and white packaging.

Not at my university. Common people smoked Marlboro (and Winfield), while ordinary people smoked budget brands such as Holiday. I usually smoked Kent because a girl I fancied smoked Kent. And because the 'all-white' cigarette made me seem slightly effete. And because I could mispronounce them as Kunt. I also smoked Silk Cut (because they were hard to get in Australia and again because I could mispronounce the name) and Prince (because they were Danish) and Dunhill Blue (because girls were likely to want one of those). Racing cars were for losers. Of course this was all a long time ago.

Years ago my dad smoked Sweet Afton, I used to like reading the Burns poem printed on the back and the yellow carton was nice..., I certainly think packaging has a lot to do with the appeal.
I did end up smoking for a couple of years, I think Major was the brand but tried whatever at the time, though the untipped were really viewed as what the oldies smoked so as a teenager we only smoked tipped.
Luckily smoking never agreed with me, always had a bit of a cough so after two attempts gave up.

Quote: Lee @ August 16 2012, 12:46 AM BST

No but I bet AJGO and R.C do.

Yup, sympathy for you. Especially as it's not really to do with smoking but with not wanting to mess staff about, whose jobs have already suddenly got a whole load more irritating and tiresome.

The behind shutters/plain packaging issues don't bother me, I like the illicitness of it all. Although it could be improved if cigs were kept under the counter and the packaging was brown paper. I say we issue everyone with a trilby and bring speakeasies back

Quote: Lee @ August 16 2012, 12:46 AM BST

No but I bet AJGO and R.C do.

Sympathy added. As I've always maintained, cigarette smoke is like a magical fog that repels arseholes.

The coolest people aren't smokers, but non-smokers who tolerate their nicotine addicted friends.

As for the white packaging and sliding shutters, this is a move designed to appear as if the government are doing something about the problem. Obeisity and diabetes levels in the UK are going through the roof, but imagine the hypocritical furor if they tried to make McDonalds or Cadburys packaging completely anonymous.

Quote: AJGO @ August 16 2012, 12:10 PM BST

I say we issue everyone with a trilby and bring speakeasies back

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:D Loving these comments guys! We pay loads of tax per pack, that must off-set any treatment on NHS.

Agree with RC that over weight costs NHS lots and Alcholism they will be targeted next so beware! Whistling nnocently

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 12:22 PM BST

As for the white packaging and sliding shutters, this is a move designed to appear as if the government are doing something about the problem. Obeisity and diabetes levels in the UK are going through the roof, but imagine the hypocritical furor if they tried to make McDonalds or Cadburys packaging completely anonymous.

It does grate a little that the ciggie counter is covered in lottery options

Quote: Marc P @ August 16 2012, 12:23 PM BST
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Marcmeister, those pics of our Soho exploits are private!

Quote: dellas @ August 16 2012, 12:33 PM BST

:D Loving these comments guys! We pay loads of tax per pack, that must off-set any treatment on NHS.

Agree with RC that over weight costs NHS lots and Alcholism they will be targeted next so beware! Whistling nnocently

Can't be bothered to look for stats now but yes, there is still a profit of many billions once health care related to smoking has been paid for. If I recall correctly this figure doesn't take into account the reduced spending on state pensions and care for the elderly either.

Quote: AJGO @ August 16 2012, 12:42 PM BST

Marcmeister, those pics of our Soho exploits are private!

I reckon you should get a cigarette holder! :)

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 12:22 PM BST

but imagine the hypocritical furor if they tried to make McDonalds or Cadburys packaging completely anonymous.

Furore from the public you mean? I wouldn't care at all. Although would probably want to pay a bit less, since they're not spending any money on packaging anymore.

Quote: Marc P @ August 16 2012, 12:44 PM BST

I reckon you should get a cigarette holder! :)

Now they ARE cool.

;) It is slowly becoming a very 'White World' is'nt it? Huh?

Quote: dellas @ August 16 2012, 12:47 PM BST

;) It is slowly becoming a very 'White World' is'nt it? Huh?

People who object to smoking are racists. Fact.

Quote: zooo @ August 16 2012, 12:45 PM BST

Furore from the public you mean?

The public are very brand concious having been raised in a consumerist hell for their entire lives.

By removing the brightly coloured packaging, they'd actually have to read what's written on a product and the public don't like unnecessary reading.

To cut down on rioting and future crime, perhaps we could have a ban on expensive sports clothing and footwear brands?

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 12:22 PM BST

As I've always maintained, cigarette smoke is like a magical fog that repels arseholes.

Yeah, right, absolutely, because Stuart Hazell smokes, as do cadging beggars, and they, er, yeah, right. Brilliant argument.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 12:22 PM BST

The coolest people aren't smokers, but non-smokers who tolerate their nicotine addicted friends.

No. One of my best friends for many years thoughtfully badgered me to quit smoking, quit heavy nightly drinking till dawn and to cut my long hair. Watching friends destroy themselves and not trying to help them isn't cool, it's dumb. Doesn't mean obnoxious 'intervention' it just means politely reminding me them every week: "You should really cut down on the drinking and quit smoking."

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ August 16 2012, 12:22 PM BST

As for the white packaging and sliding shutters, this is a move designed to appear as if the government are doing something about the problem. Obeisity and diabetes levels in the UK are going through the roof, but imagine the hypocritical furor if they tried to make McDonalds or Cadburys packaging completely anonymous.

Good that the government is doing something to curb smoking. Perhaps there should also be a public health warning on the shit that is McDonald's. And campaigns could be run advising people to get fit. Is Cadburys that big a problem? I used to buy boxes of Daim bars wholesale in London and eat the lot over a few days - probably only putting my teeth at risk, as I kept fit.

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