I think this is a truly difficult subject. She's not on TV, papers, etc. for how she looks, judging her on her looks is harsh. However we should be able to hold an opinion if the opportunity arises - it's still a democracy, right?
I think it's a shame this is the culture of showing and sharing everything, "celebrities" don't seem to be entitled to privacy.
I'll add wood to the fire and say if that photo was mine I'd not like it being shown. I'm not bitching on a sista's body and looks, I'm far from perfect.
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Quote: Harridan @ June 10 2012, 2:55 PM BSTYou are an oddity...
That's the problem with you BCG lot, you have to generalise and stereotype and pigeon hole everyone. Soon as someone shows the slightest bit of non-conformity, you freak out because they're not in the right slot (oo-er).
I am, of course, only joking.
How about the most important element of freedom of speech.
Is the responsibility to know when to shut up.
Even if no one else is telling you to.
Quote: sootyj @ June 10 2012, 3:00 PM BSTHow about the most important element of freedom of speech.
Is the responsibility to know when to shut up.
Even if no one else is telling you to.
Hey man, I'm just responding to the angry mob who pilloried me in my absense. Where was your 'freedom of speech' tirade then?
But I do find these threads incredibly sexist - if you dare criticise any woman's physical attractiveness, especially those off the telly, the chicks all close ranks and lambast you for it.
Whereas, if a woman criticised, say Boris Johnson on his appearance, then we blokes would all be cool with that.
See how sexist this thread has become.
Isn't there a rule about this sort of thing? What is it again? erm.... oh yeah! "Don't Feed the Trolls!"
If only there was an enforceable rule against talking complete bollocks!
Oh I'm an equal ops offender you know that.
But in the same way when certain forumers ramble on about feminisim; like a drunken Jermaine Greer trying to f**k a disinterested Jeremy Clarkson. I call bullshit.
I also call bullshit when you try your quite turgid polemic. And in your case I actually have far to much respect to take your silliness seriously.
Sorry you're going to have to try much harder to convince me your an ignoramous.
Quote: zooo @ June 10 2012, 3:11 PM BSTIf only there was an enforceable rule against talking complete bollocks!
The problem with those rules is; it's always those who talk incomplete bollocks who get put up against a wall and shot.
Quote: Harridan @ June 10 2012, 3:09 PM BSTIsn't there a rule about this sort of thing? What is it again? erm.... oh yeah! "Don't Feed the Trolls!"
Whoah...
RC is no troll. You might not like some of the things he posts but he is totally upfront with them. He does not just lob hand grenades in and sit back.
No RC isn't a troll.
What ever he is, he is atleast sincere.
Quote: Will Cam @ June 10 2012, 4:26 PM BSTHe does not just lob hand grenades in and sit back.
He so does!
Half the stuff he says is an act, half not. He pretty much admits that himself.
I don't think he's a troll though, and I'm not one of the haterz. In fact I'm not sure there really are any, mainly just people he confuses.
Quote: sootyj @ June 10 2012, 4:28 PM BSTNo RC isn't a troll.
What ever he is, he is atleast sincere.
Quote: sootyj @ June 10 2012, 3:14 PM BSTI also call bullshit when you try your quite turgid polemic. And in your case I actually have far to much respect to take your silliness seriously.
Sorry you're going to have to try much harder to convince me your an ignoramous.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ June 10 2012, 2:50 PM BSTI think you make good points, which I choose to ignore for the sake of being an aforementioned bumface.
^That is called trolling
Quote: Booo @ June 10 2012, 2:59 PM BSTShe's not on TV, papers, etc. for how she looks
I disagree. I doubt she would have landed on television if she were ugly. I've never seen the show, but a quick Google search returns many professionally shot/retouched photos with perfect hair and makeup and glamorous outfits. And the fact that she's paid with taxpayers' money means that she's fair game for any and all criticism. That said, I'm confident that RC has enough class that he wouldn't call her a fat cow to her face.
Quote: AngieBaby @ June 9 2012, 11:35 PM BSTAm I the only one who finds the constant sniping at Renegade to be a bit tiresome?
Sorry Miss AngieBaby, will try to play nice
Quote: sootyj @ June 10 2012, 3:14 PM BSTBut in the same way when certain forumers ramble on about feminisim; like a drunken Jermaine Greer trying to f**k a disinterested Jeremy Clarkson.
You promised you would never tell. Anyway, he didn't reject me cos I'm a feminist, he rejected me cos I'm a pedestrian
Quote: Harridan @ June 10 2012, 4:31 PM BST^That is called trolling
Aw, RC's not a troll, that's him trying to give a compliment!
He is a good guy really, just an utter arse on occasion
Quote: DaButt @ June 10 2012, 5:30 PM BSTI disagree. I doubt she would have landed on television if she were ugly. I've never seen the show, but a quick Google search returns many professionally shot/retouched photos with perfect hair and makeup and glamorous outfits. And the fact that she's paid with taxpayers' money means that she's fair game for any and all criticism. That said, I'm confident that RC has enough class that he wouldn't call her a fat cow to her face.
As RC said, EastEnders doesn't seem to make casting decisions based on attractiveness. There are plenty of people on TV (at least on British TV) who don't satisfy the generic ideals of attractiveness.
The fact that nice publicity photographs of her exist doesn't mean that she is presenting herself as a sexual object to be judged, it means that programmes need to be promoted by showing off their stars. She probably doesn't have a choice.
The fact that she's being paid through a sort of tax doesn't make her public property anymore than it makes teachers, doctors or librarians public property to be ogled and degraded.
Insulting people behing their backs on a public forum is not much classier than doing it to their faces.
Quote: AJGO @ June 10 2012, 5:43 PM BSTSorry Miss AngieBaby, will try to play nice
That was not directed in your direction at all AJ. You didn't like what was said and you put forward a succint and considered response. You took no offence, and held no grudges.that's how you make a point!
I wish others would take note, and stop trolling after RC on every thread.