sootyj
Tuesday 22nd May 2012 2:32pm
51,287 posts
Quote: zooo @ May 22 2012, 2:19 PM BST
If there's no upper age limit on men spunking into cups then there should be no age limit on helping women get pregnant either.
I doubt many women have the menopause (nature's cut off point) at 40, so I don't know why that should be the cut off point for IVF.
Except wanking into a cup costs, well the cost of the cup (they could provide their own?)
IVF, late stage pregnancies are vastly expensive.
The NHS is I think the biggest recipient of our taxes, possibly even our GDP.
But with that money they have to choose how to spend billions maintaining the health of millions. And how that's divided is endlessly controversial and will throw up endless questions and bizare examples.
For all the tea in China I wouldn't want to work for NICE, event though I think generally they get things wrong.
I hate to say but if you're in your 40s and can't afford IVF. Maybe you shouldn't have it. You're bringing a child into the world, statistically you may not be around to look after in their early life. And if you're not secure enough to pay for IVF, are you secure enough to raise them?
Quote: DaButt @ May 22 2012, 3:14 PM BST
Over here a white couple's only choice is a minority baby or a severely disabled white baby.
My daughter's friend's parents adopted a white child with "difficulties." He turned out to be a full-blown schizophrenic who liked to put knives and broken glass in his sister's pillowcase. He was in and out of institutions before he finally stepped in front of a train. It was tragic in every way and his parents couldn't have been kinder, more loving people.
So who adopts white kids?
Adoption is to fiddly and too beuracratic. The problem is that back in days gone by adoption was massively mishandled. Kids yanked from parents society didn't aprove of, handed over to abusive families or growing up lonely in a society they had no place and no one understood them.
So the rules got made perhaps to strict. Especially as fostering and care are generally as bad as they are over priced. And trying to hold failing families together? Well just look at BabyP.
The solution is adoption, but somehow avoiding those real dangers from the past.
