Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2012, 5:07 PM BSTIt would be more accurate to say you attacked me.
I've barely tickled your fanny. As they say in the states.
Cardinal Burns - Series 1 Page 3
Quote: sootyj @ May 9 2012, 9:42 PM BSTe.g. the hawk sketch live on stage would be great some guy imitating troilism with birds and mugging etc that'd be funny if it's right on your face. But not so much on the stage.
Here is the offending contradiction. You said it would work well on the stage just before saying it wouldn't.
But it does bring up the question of whether live comedy acts translate well to television and the validity of the Edinburgh Comedy Fringe for finding new talent. The guy who does the living statue in Covent Garden is great in real life but would make a piss poor television show.
According to Bussell earlier in this thread, Cardinal Burns have a dynamite live act, but poncying about on stage in front of a group of drunken trendies, you know, the kind of idiots that laugh at meerkat insurance adverts when they're shown at the cinema before a film, is a completely different discipline from crafting a half hour, fast moving, television show.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ May 11 2012, 11:21 AM BSTBut it does bring up the question of whether live comedy acts translate well to television
Obviously they don't, as 'The League Of Gentlemen' was awful when it made its way to TV.*
*That's a lie.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ May 11 2012, 11:21 AM BSTponcying about on stage in front of a group of drunken trendies, you know, the kind of idiots that laugh at meerkat insurance adverts
People who watch and enjoy live comedy = idiots..? 
Quote: sootyj @ May 10 2012, 4:52 PM BSTWhy are you defending this moribund show?
People are allowed to enoy a show, or bits of it, that someone else doesn't.
No but they made loads of changes to really craft the TV version
Morcambe and Wise famously initially translated badly initially
Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2012, 11:26 AM BSTNo but they made loads of changes to really craft the TV version
Sure, but that wasn't the question. Obviously most people change their approach a bit when they move from the stage to TV, or radio. Sometimes it doesn't work, sometimes it does.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 11 2012, 11:26 AM BSTObviously they don't, as 'The League Of Gentlemen' was awful when it made its way to TV.*
*That's a lie.
Topical!
But The League of Gentlemen and similarly The Mighty Boosh had a chance to refine their acts on radio - a discipline that relies totally on the written word - oh and unlike Cardinal Burns, they were both mentored by the BBC.
E4 on the otherhand - https://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/channel/e4/ - have gone to almost paedophillic lengths to attract kids and are just throwing out any old garbage to try and lure them to their sordid channel. It says something when even the clueless twunts at BBC 3 have a stronger and more creative output.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ May 11 2012, 11:26 AM BSTPeople who watch and enjoy live comedy = idiots..?
Not all of them, just 99% of them.
Quote: sootyj @ May 11 2012, 11:26 AM BSTMorcambe and Wise famously initially translated badly initially
Incorrect. Morecambe (E! TWO Es!) and Wise's first TV show failed specifically because they were written for, with a different style and set of material to their stage act. When they were allowed to star in a series that was built upon their live act and personas, it was almost an instant hit.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ May 11 2012, 11:40 AM BSTBut The League of Gentlemen and similarly The Mighty Boosh had a chance to refine their acts on radio
So there's your answer; yes, live acts can (and obviously many have) translate well to TV; but it can depend how they develop for that different medium.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ May 11 2012, 11:40 AM BSTNot all of them, just 99% of them.
Watched the rest of this. Thought it was a pretty good first episode myself.
What was that last sketch all about, apart, maybe, from the characters having funny voices?
Quote: catskillz @ May 13 2012, 6:00 PM BSTWhat was that last sketch all about, apart, maybe, from the characters having funny voices?
A stupid bullshitter bullshitting to someone even stupider. Sort of in the Pete and Dud tradition.
Stewart Lee's wife is in this.
If, like her husband, she spends all her available free time searching the internet for comments about herself, then I'd just like to say "Hello. Nice to see you on television and hopefully your career will go on to blossom after this crappy little sketch show is long forgotten".
(By the way, you'd increase your chances of being called by your real name and not 'Stewart Lee's wife' if you at least met the public half-way and started calling yourself Bridget Lee instead of Bridget Christie)
Why should she change her name? Weird.
I still haven't seen this! Must give it a go.