Does Texas have the mandatory background checks when you purchase a handgun? I keep forgetting if that is state or Federal.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 717
Having once had an erudite and intelligent American brother in law. it's quite fun to see people 'taking on' an erudite and intelligent American.
Quote: Oldrocker @ March 22 2012, 12:43 AM GMTHaving once had an erudite and intelligent American brother in law. it's quite fun to see people 'taking on' an erudite and intelligent American.
Well, they are extremely rare. 
Where are the stats concerning all violent crime perpetrated by those who happened to also have a permit for a weapon that they didn't use in their crime?
They're not there. It's the usual government tailor-made job.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ March 22 2012, 12:43 AM GMTDoes Texas have the mandatory background checks when you purchase a handgun? I keep forgetting if that is state or Federal.
It's a federal check. It takes about 15 minutes, so you can be out the door with a new firearm in just a few minutes.
The checks don't apply to sales from an individual to another individual, hence the "gun show loophole" that a lot of people are whining about.
Quote: Stylee TingTing @ March 22 2012, 12:45 AM GMTWhere are the stats concerning all violent crime perpetrated by those who happened to also have a permit for a weapon that they didn't use in their crime?
YES. IT. IS. READ THE EFFING REPORT!
For example, if a person is convicted of rape and has a CHL he will be listed in the stats even if he didn't use a handgun during the crime.
From the DPS website:
The following reports represent the number of Concealed Handgun License (CHL) holders with convictions vs. the entire TX population with convictions. The Criminal History conviction data is not considered "final" until a year after the conviction. Each report is generated for the current year minus 2 years (ie. the 2006 Conviciton Rates Report was run in mid 2008 to allow for "final" conviction status on the 2006 Criminal History records). The delayed report generation timeline also gives the CHL Legal department time to revoke or deny CHL's after a "final" conviction has been reached and reported to CHL. Each report contains descriptive text regarding the data content.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ March 22 2012, 12:44 AM GMTWell, they are extremely rare.
Nonetheless . . . . 
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ March 22 2012, 12:44 AM GMTWell, they are extremely rare.
Quote: DaButt @ March 22 2012, 12:54 AM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkupBSeY00
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Of course, we British would never do anything as stupid -
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ March 22 2012, 12:56 AM GMThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkupBSeY00
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Of course, we British would never do anything as stupid -
This month a Houston mother of 10 left her youngest child behind at a Chuck E. Cheese (kid-themed pizza restaurant and game room) and didn't call the police until the next morning. She sounded pretty matter-of-fact in her 911 call. Jeez.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ March 21 2012, 1:09 PM GMTMy view is the total opposite. If more and more people knew that trespassing resulted in death, then crime would drop like a stone.
The reason people spent money on living in a gated community was so that gangs of young black men wouldn't be roaming through their back gardens.
The Neighbourhood Watch guy reported 46 suspicious activies to the police in the space of 12 months. People were casing those houses for robbery and home invasion and he reacted strongly and robustly. When he asked the kid to stop and identify himself, the kid pulled up has hood and walked away. Nothing suspicious about that.
By sending out the message that you aren't allowed to defend yourself will get a lot of innocent, law abiding people killed.
If a young white guy took a shortcut through an entirely black neighbourhood at night in Florida and was shot dead, what would your view be?
That attitude belongs to the days of Cowboys & Injuns and has no place in modern society. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial not summary execution and trespassing (which is only TRESPASS if damage is done) has not been punishable by death for a very very long time.
But the question at real issue here is not so much what happened on the night, but why has the resident not been arrested and made to prove beyond reasonable doubt whether or not his actions were justified. Trial & aquittal by media & hearsay is not adequate when a death is involved.
And its a pretty crummy gated community which if it really had 45 alerts has not got a private guard on the gate to prevent stray wanderers from entering.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ March 22 2012, 12:56 AM GMTOf course, we British would never do anything as stupid -
Thick Essex cnut . . .
Quote: billwill @ March 22 2012, 1:08 AM GMTEveryone is entitled to a fair trial not summary execution
Of course, but we're also allowed to protect ourselves and that's what this is all about. What if the kid had grabbed the man's gun and shot him? The kid would get his fair trial and the good guy would get a funeral.
But the question at real issue here is not so much what happened on the night, but why has the resident not been arrested and made to prove beyond reasonable doubt whether or not his actions were justified.
According to the police, that's exactly what was done -- minus the arrest of someone found to be innocent by the police at the scene, of course.
And its a pretty crummy gated community which if it really had 45 alerts has not got a private guard on the gate to prevent stray wanderers from entering.
Guards add hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs per year, so only the truly wealthy have guards on duty 24/7. Most communities rely on police and/or neighborhood watch patrols.
2009 Texas crimes of violence stats:
Population: 24,782,302;
Murder: 1,330;
Rape: 8,311;
Robbery: 38,022;
Aggravated Assault: 74,021;
Other violent: 121,684;
All violent crimes: 1 per 102 inhabitants;
Murder: 1 per 18,633 inhabitants; (figures rounded-up);
So 243,368 reported violent crimes in Texas in 2009, none of which was committed by those owning concealed weapon permits? Yeah right.
BTW Most of these are unsolved crimes. That "1 in 500,000" stat is just bullshit and apple pie.
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Quote: Stylee TingTing @ March 22 2012, 1:24 AM GMTSo 243,368 reported violent crimes in Texas in 2009, none of which was committed by those owning concealed weapon permits? Yeah right.
BTW Most of these are unsolved crimes. That "1 in 500,000" stat is just bullshit and apple pie.
The figures on the document I linked to show the violent crimes committed by CHL holders. There are a small handful, of course, but they're still FAR lower than the citizenry as a whole. 1 in 500,000 is exactly what I said: one CHL holder was convicted of murder in 2009.
Texas has double the number of hispanics then the US national average, there's your unsolved crimes - Mexicans!!!!
More lovely stats -