Allan OB
Monday 6th February 2012 1:40pm [Edited]
65 posts
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ February 4 2012, 2:05 PM GMT
I am in full agreement with you Allan. I think the debate has more to do with Alex Salmond's delusional lust for power and historical significance - a la 'Braveheart' - then the actual needs and wants of the Scottish electorate. Tax payers are having to cough up millions of pounds to fund one man's ego trip.
"Braveheart should be compulsory education in all Scottish schools." -Alex Salmond.
How does one begin to argue against the twisted logic that suggests that Scottish schoolkids should be indoctrinated by Hollywood fiction?
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ February 4 2012, 2:05 PM GMT
What the SNP aren't telling the voters is that it won't be a case of Scotland becoming independent one day and then joining the EU the next. The EU has strict rules about regions of established countries seceding and it's generally discouraged. Scotland would have to reapply to be an EU member nation and that could take years.
Indeedy. Also, as Scotland is currently a semi-independant nation within a free and voluntarily partnership with the other UK states it is going to be hard to define what the Scots position would be as regards membership of the Commonwealth would be too.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ February 4 2012, 2:05 PM GMT
The other EU countries with similarly 'rebellious' regions - such as Spain - would be the first to veto down any moves to accept Scotland as an independent EU nation.
The EU could possibly argue that both Scotland and the remainder of the UK would have to apply seperately for EU membership. But it's more likely that the UK would be allowed to stay on and the Scots would have to prove their suitability to the EU as a new member.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ February 4 2012, 2:05 PM GMT
Oh and of course, there is the small matter that most Scottish people would like to stay part of the Union.
With the case for Independence rarely acheiving over 1/3rd of the polls there is the larger, and more serious matter, of SNP and blatant vote-rigging.
SNP argued that they would stick in another question in the referendum that has nothing to do with the Independence issue, this would of course dilute any direct opposition to independence.
The SNP are demanding that EU nationals living in Scotland can vote, but insist that Scots expats may not vote. Thus a German or Spaniard living in Scotland can take part in the vote, but none of almost one million Scots living and working in England may vote.
The SNP want 16 year old schoolkids to be able to vote on this issue. Therefore those who are more easily influenced by romantic rhetoric rather than logic or experience may be allowed to vote for the first time in their lives, but under UK law this cannot be ratified.
The SNP say they can ignore UK law and go ahead as they see fit even though subsequent results may be declared illegal.
