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Hi all.

As I said in my previous post I have just finished my first sitcom after what seemed like an eternity of planning and rewrites.

I've taken some advice on board and won't post the whole thing on here but as only 1 other person has read my script I'd quite like to get some opinions on part of the first scene.

The sitcom is semi-autobiographical in that it is about a guy (Mark) who desperately wants to write a sitcom but cannot come up with a workable idea for love nor money, while his life plays out like something out of one.

All feedback welcome..
(please note that the copy/paste has altered the format)

WRITING WRONGS
"Son of a Preacher Man"
By Martin Fryer
 
 
FADE IN
 
Scene 1. Internal. Day. Tom & Abby's flat
 
We focus on a letter box as post is pushed through it and hits the welcome mat. The camera turns and we see we are in a hallway with a couple of doors off it. A young lady comes out of one of the doors as she puts a jacket on over a work uniform; she finishes a piece of toast as she does this.
 
This is Abby; she is in her mid 20s.

Abby:
See you tonight. Don't forget I'm going to try that new swimming pool out after work. So I might be a bit later than usual. Let me know before five if you want to come and I'll come pick you up from work.
 
MARK:
(OOS) OK.
 
ABBY:
I think you have to wear proper swimming trunks though. I'll find out and text you later. Let me know what you want for dinner as well. Love you.
 
MARK
(OOS) Will Do! Love you too. Have a good day.
 
She opens the front door to leave but pauses to pick up the post. She has a quick look through it then puts it on a small side unit which sits under a large mirror hanging on the wall.
 
ABBY:
Oh, will you have a look at my phone tonight please? I'm still having problems with that voice texting thing. I tried to send my dad a message last night saying 'if I bring my bike round could you repair the puncture'?
 
MARK:
(OOS) What did it send as?
 
ABBY:
If I bring a dyke round are you prepared to punch her?
 
MARK:
(Laughing) What did he say?
 
ABBY:
He said yes! I'll see you later alright?
 
 
 
 
MARK:
See you tonight. Love you.
 
 
As Abby leaves we see Mark enter the hallway, he is also in his 20s. He is wearing a shirt and a tie with smart work trousers but still manages to look slightly scruffy. He peers through the frosted glass door .As soon as the car pulls away he takes off his tie and takes his phone out of his pocket.
He dials with one hand and squeezes his neck with the other.
 
MARK:
(Practicing different sick voices that gradually get slower and quieter until he sounds as if he is on his death bed)
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
 
MARK:
(Into phone)
(Sick voice) Oh hello, it's Mark. I won't be in. Mark! Mark Chambers.
(His sick voice slips) Jesus, I've been there 5 years. Yes, that's me. (His sick voice returns) I won't be in today because I've got a neck Err flu of the neck (He reacts to his own stupidity) Flu of the neck. Yeah, it's like a sore throat but much worse. OK.OK will do. Yeah thanks. Bye.
(Hangs up)
 
 
As Mark places the phone back into his trouser pocket and picks up the post. He sorts through it until he comes to something addressed to him. He places the other items back on the unit and opens his letter. He reads aloud as he enters the living room.
 
MARK:
Dear Mr Chambers, we wrote to you recently regarding an outstanding twelve pounds on your blockbuster account and we still haven't received a response. Please call....
 
He screws it up and throws it into the bin.
 
MARK:
A big company like that and they're chasing me for twelve quid. No wonder they're going under.
 
He switches the TV and XBOX on.
 
The door bell goes. Mark tries to see who it is from the living room window but can't do so without moving the curtains and net which he is visibly reluctant to do. He switches off the TV and XBOX and goes to the door.
It's his brother, Tom. He is in his late teens, tanned and dressed like a member of a JLS. As Mark opens the door Tom is just finishing a phone call.
 
 
TOM:
(Into phone)
So I had no choice but to crap in the sink......Yeah, see you tonight. Laters.
(Hangs up)
 
 
MARK:
What are you doing here? I'm meant to be at work today.
 
TOM:
But you're not at work.
 
MARK:
You didn't know that though.
 
Tom enters the house and they walk towards the living room.
 
TOM:
The last time you did a full week it was under a Labour Government.
 
MARK:
That's one of dad's old jokes. He said it about Uncle Barry. Of course it didn't really work at the time as The Labour Party was still in Power. I phoned in sick but got my words in a mess and ended up telling them that I had flu of the neck.
 
Tom isn't interested; he is flexing his muscles in the hallway mirror while turning his head to check his hair.
 
MARK:
Actually that would make a good scene in the sitcom I'm writing.
 
Tom leaves the mirror and they enter the living room.
 
 
 
TOM:
You aren't writing a sitcom are you?
 
MARK:
Yes.
 
Tom sits on the Sofa. Mark puts the TV and XBOX back on. He passes Tom a control pad and sits next to him. He takes his phone from his pocket and places it on a coffee table to the side of Tom.
 
TOM:
What's it called?
 
MARK:
I've not got that far yet.
 
TOM:
What's it about?
 
 
MARK:
I've not got that far either.
 
TOM:
Those writers strikes they had in America don't apply to you, you know.
 
 
MARK
I'm brainstorming ideas at the moment.
 
TOM:
You've been doing that for 15 years.
 
MARK:
Well it's a slow process. I've given up trying to write a 80s style show, I'm focusing more on modern comedy, they say write about what you know.
 
TOM:
So you're going to write about an overweight, lazy office worker with no prospects who's been trying to write a sitcom for the last 15 years?
 
 
MARK
. That's the thing, what I know doesn't make the basis of a good sitcom. John Sullivan lived in the era of the Cockney wide boy and out of that came Delboy and Only Fools and Horses. David Croft was in the army during World War two and he went on to co-write Dads Army. These people have lived the stories they're telling.
 
TOM:
Yeah, I see what you mean. I reckon Ricky Gervais worked in an office before he wrote thingy.
 
MARK:
(Sarcastic) Extras?
 
TOM
 The Office!
 
 
MARK:
Yeah of course he did.
 
TOM:
What's his mate called?
 
 
MARK:
Stephen Merchant. That's exactly what I need.
 
 
TOM:
a tall mate?
 
MARK:
No, I need to write about something that I know about, something that I've experienced. For example I worked in a call centre for 5 years but nothing funny happened.
 
TOM:
What do you mean nothing funny happened? I pissed myself laughing when you got sacked.
 
MARK:
I prefer the term 'invited to leave'
 
TOM:
Sacked! 
 
MARK:
I worked at a petrol station for a couple of years. I can't think of any previous sitcoms set in a petrol station and it was quite a laugh there actually.
 
TOM:
I don't remember you laughing much when they caught you nicking from the Jet Wash machines
.
MARK:
Yes, OK.
 
TOM:
In fact you cried.
 
MARK.
I learnt from my mistakes though, didn't I?
 
 TOM:
The only thing you learnt was that your tracksuit pockets couldn't hold sixty quid in pound coins. I wish I'd been there when they fell down in front of you manager, you must have looked like a sweaty, human fruit machine as all that money fell out. (Tom laughs)
 
 
MARK:
I didn't sweat in them days. I was as fit as butcher dog. Flat stomach! The works!
 
TOM:
And look at you now. You smell like a butcher's dog and only things that's flat is your sex drive.
 
MARK:
There's nothing wrong with my sex drive, I'm like a young Ben Dover when I get going.
 
 
TOM:
More like Ben-der
 
MARK:
(Sarcastic) That's Genius, and they say I'm the funny one.
 
Tom pauses the game they are playing, puts down the controller and turns to face Mark.
 
TOM.
You could write about me.
 
MARK
(Puzzled) Write what about you?
 
TOM:
You could base the main character in your sitcom on me. You can write about how I'm really popular with girls and got a nice car and that. 
 
MARK:
That's a good idea with only two problems as far as I can see.
 
TOM:
Which are?
 
MARK:
It's neither true nor funny.
 
 
 
TOM:
Well you have to write me into funny situations. Like one day I could be at a hotel knocking off a couple of sisters when I accidentally insult some German tourists.
 
MARK:
So, a seedier version of Fawlty Towers, then? 
 
 
TOM:
Yeah. Seedy comedy was all the rage in the late 70s. You could start a rena... renais (fails to pronounce 'renaissance') ...You could bring it back with me in the lead role.
 
MARK:
Confessions of a window licker! I need something fresh and original so that it gets noticed.
 
TOM:
(Dejected) Think of something yourself then. 
 
Tom picks up his controller and they restart the game.
 

The neck flu line made me laugh.

I have to admit that the basic premise made me groan.

It was well written, and I know it was only a snapshot, but I couldn't see what the 'situation' was. Where was the conflict etc going to come from.

Send it to a professional script reader if you want a proper critique

Good luck

Thanks for your comment.

The situation is that the main character is attempting to force himself
Into situations in order to get inspiration for a sitcom when his
Real life has enough going on in it that it should serve as inspiration enough.
He will realise this one day.
The conflict comes from those around him who have no interest in what he
Is attempting to do and actually hinder him.

Ooh dodgy situation sitcom about writing a sitcom is either too clever or not clever enough,

The flow and setting is nice as are the characters I can pictre it all well.

But it's way to joke lite and as Will says I have no feel for the situation. Also characters feel like their narrating more than interacting.

Nothing I don't think couldn't be tweeked.

Again, thanks for the comments. I'll post the rest of the scene later
As I think it's hard to see where it's going based on a 4 minute chunk of the very first scene.

Should be possible on page one.

Posting this from my phone so hopefully it will format ok...

Continued from previous...

MARK:
My mate Paul is coming round tonight to talk about ideas for scenes and that. I'm hoping everything will just fall into place.
 
TOM:
Who's Paul?
 
MARK:
I work with him. He knows his comedy! 
 
 
TOM:
Ugh well I won't be here, I've seen the state of your mates from work in your Facebook pictures. They look like they got they're clothes from a House of Fraser and they're faces from a house of wax.
 
MARK:
How can you insult people for the way they look and dress when you sit there looking like a Peter Andre tribute act.
 
TOM:
I like Peter Andre!
 
MARK:
Of course you do!
 
.
We hear Marks phone beep indicating he has received a text message.
 
MARK.
Read that will you?
 
Tom pauses the game and picks up the phone off of the table next to him. He reads the text to himself and reacts somewhat surprised at its contents.
 
TOM:
It's from Abby. Are you two trying to spice up your sex life again by any chance?
 
 
MARK:
What does it say?
 
 
TOM:
It says if you want to go swinging with her tonight you are going to need to bring a pair of Paedos. That's disgusting!
 
MARK:
(Shaking his head) She's got a new phone with voice texting and it's playing up.
 
TOM:
Ohh. If you want to go swimming with her tonight then you need to bring a pair of Speedos?
 
MARK:
Yes. At least I hope that's what she means.
 
TOM:
Shall we go get something to eat? I'm starving.
 
MARK:
Have you got any money?
 
TOM:
Nope.
 
MARK:
Didn't bother signing on this week?
 
TOM:
Nope.
 
 
 
MARK:
Let me guess. Met a girl while out clubbing?
 
TOM:
Yep.
 
MARK:
Told her some bullshit story about how you're an airline pilot or something?
 
 
TOM:
Paranormal Investigator.
 
Mark reacts
 
MARK:
Then found out she works at the job centre?
 
TOM:
Yep
 
MARK:
So now you can't sign on while you're knocking her off because she'll realise you're actually unemployed and got less career prospects than an agoraphobic Big Issue seller.
 
TOM.
It doesn't matter about careers or money when you've got a car, the ladies love the car and you know the score, I supply the wheels, you supply the meals. Let's go...
 
Tom gets up and switches the TV and Xbox off. Mark reluctantly follows.
 
Fade out
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
FADE IN
 
 
SCENE 2: External. Day. A road.
 
The camera starts with a close up shot of a Mercedes badge on the front of a flash silver car and slowly pans up and along the driver side; we can see that it is a convertible. We now pan along the drivers side until we see a set of hands wearing leather driving gloves at the steering wheel. We pan up the arms to the face of a middle aged gentleman; he does a double take at something in his wing mirror and manoeuvres the car in a lively manner. We now pan away to show a battered purple old style fiesta cut the man up.
 
We now change POV to facing the driver (Tom) and his passenger (Mark)
 
TOM:
Bastard woman drivers
 
MARK:
It was a man.
 
TOM:
Yeah, driving like a woman.
 
MARK:
(Shakes head) A bastard woman?
 
TOM:
Yeah. Thinks he's all rich and successful just because he drives a seventy grand BMW.
 
MARK.
It was a Mercedes and I think driving a seventy grand Mercedes generally is a sign that you are rich and successful.
 
 
TOM:
Bollocks. I'd rather have this. It's the Tom Chambers mobile shag shuttle.
 
MARK:
It's an Uninsured shag shuttle that you've never actually shagged anyone in.
 
 
TOM.
It's still a shuttle.
 
MARK:
Yeah, the Challenger. 
 
TOM.
Didn't that blow up?
 
MARK:
Yep
 
We switch to an external shot from behind the car as it approaches a bus stop full of people.
 
TOM:
Wind your window down and shout 'bus wankers'
 
MARK:
That was funny for about 15 minutes in 2010
 
We switch back to the previous point of view.
 
TOM:
It's hilarious. I always do it.
 
MARK:
Tom, being seen riding the bus is cooler than being seen driving this car. Then again being seen riding Jackie Stallone is cooler than being seen driving this car.
 
TOM:
At least I can drive, Bruv.
 
MARK:
Oh, here we go, I'll learn to drive eventually. I haven't got the time or money at the moment.
 
TOM:
You're the only person I know that's over twenty five and doesn't drive.
 
 
 
MARK:
Well you're the only person I know that still pissed the bed when he was 13.
 
TOM:
Mum and Dad had just split up and I was going through a tough time.
 
 
MARK.
The only thing you we're going through was sheets. Anyway, I know loads of people over twenty five who don't drive.
 
 
TOM:
Name one.
 
 
MARK.
Stephen Hawking!
 
TOM:
He drives everywhere.
 
MARK:
That's true.
 
TOM:
Where are we eating?
 
MARK.
McDonalds breakfast?
 
The view switches to side on in the car so we can see what Tom and Mark see.
 
The car pulls up at a set of traffic lights on a moderately busy high street, Tom and Mark notice a middle aged man, quite smartly dressed but in a flat cap with wild grey hair sticking out of the sides. He also wears fingerless gloves despite the warm weather. He is holding up a sign that reads 'REPENT - FOR THE END IS NIGH' a lady, also smartly dressed, stands next to him handing out leaflets, no one takes them from her.
 
The switches back to the original front on view of Tom and Mark.
 
 
MARK:
It always puzzles me when I see people like that? I mean she is clearly only doing that because she loves her husband but when did he bring that up during the courtship? I've had a lovely time tonight Fred; do you want to come on a nice picnic with me Tuesday? I can't Tuesday my love; I'm outside Asda spreading the word of Satan.
 
TOM:
They want locking up. Bible bashing bastards.
 
MARK:
I know I've said it before but I feel the need remind you every now every now and again that if we weren't brothers I would never spend a second with you.
 
TOM:
You've got that right, fatty.
 
We now cut to a view of the car pulling into a McDonald's car park.
 
 
FADE OUT
 

Quote: sootyj @ January 31 2012, 3:37 PM GMT

Should be possible on page one.

Could you elaborate please?

I think the main problem you have Martin is getting the audience to care. Nobody really cares about someone struggling to write a sitcom. It kinds of works if you have a successful stand up like Seinfeld doing it, but in all honesty the angst of struggling to be a writer isn't a popular sell - let alone the angst of trying to write a sitcom. The publics perception is if you can't write funny don't bother. Colin's Sandwich was good mind but it wasn't all, or mostly, about him trying to write a sitcom. And the cardinal rule about writers writing stand up comedians and etc into a script, is to be able to write the funny material. Otherwise you are throwing a huge spotlight on your material. Look at the opening scene and see how long it takes to get to a gag. And put some action in I would advise otherwise it falls back on self referential banter which is never ideal. I guess I am saying you have picked a tough nut to crack, good luck with it all.

Thanks so much for going to the trouble of of replying indepth.
I see exactly what you're saying and agree. I didn't see it before but it's pretty clear
Once I see someone from the outside so to speak.

I've gone from thinking this was just about ready to show people to realising
It's not even half finished.

Thank you.

Now would anyone like to tell me where it does work? Confidence boost needed,

Quote: MartyMcFry @ January 31 2012, 3:43 PM GMT

Could you elaborate please?

By page one your character and setting should be strong enough to roughlysee where the bulk of the action is going.

Issues

1 The speech is quite forced and unnatural "they look like..." "I am going to..."

2 Too few jokes and lose the paedo joke!

3 The sitcom writing is a bit to dominant. I think you need to find a lighter subject, more natural.

A guy who's writing a sitcom could work, but it should be more in the background. Like the theme being he goes on a retreat but can never get a chance to write because he's constantly being disturbed.

There's something in there, but you haven't reached it yet in my view.

This is all great advice. Cheers.

Why not take your characters and put them in a couple of random scenes and see what they get upto?

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