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Quote: AJGO @ January 29 2012, 11:00 PM GMT

Was it.., I don't know the right way to put it without sounding flippant..
I went to Ypres years ago and it was so odd, like the space holds its own ghosts. It's probably that you invoke that yourself, but, without believing in actual ghosts, it does feel like some places are sort of captured, apart in their own atmosphere. That sounds like such wank, I do apologise. I quite want to go to other places where horrific things have occured but am not really comfortable with tragedy tourism.

The awful thing was that there were so many graves of 18/19-year-olds. But I know what you mean about projecting your own feelings onto it. Remember stopping in a lay-by - green fields, trees, peace, and, indeed birdsong, and I realised it had been an area of devastation in WW1.

Quote: chipolata @ January 29 2012, 11:07 PM GMT

(And I'm not ashamed to say I like Julian Sands. He was great in Warlock)

I'm probably being a little harsh. I thought he was terrible in this movie, however. Then again, it's not a very well-written role.

Ok I shall take your reccomendation Tim

I found Leaving Las Vegas entertaining but utterly superficial and unbelievable. Kind of a foolish fantasy, the one scene with any bite is when they got kicked out of the hotel.

Albeit "the whole year in" is a great pun

Now I think about it, another thing with 'Leaving Las Vegas' - what is it with the use of the documentary-style interview bits with Elizabeth Shue's character? No explanation as to their context or relevance. Show don't tell etc..?. Hang your head in shame, Mike Figgis!

Quote: keewik @ January 29 2012, 11:21 PM GMT

The awful thing was that there were so many graves of 18/19-year-olds. But I know what you mean about projecting your own feelings onto it. Remember stopping in a lay-by - green fields, trees, peace, and, indeed birdsong, and I realised it had been an area of devastation in WW1.

Not to be a comedy cliche, but the end scene of Blackadder makes me teary just thinking about it. Somehow peacefulness is even more poignant.

Considering going to Chernobyl at some point, that's not the same tackiness as a war holiday, right? Errr

I haven't seen that film since I was about 16 (during my Nic Cage phase), all I remember is it made me associate watching people drinking a lot with feeling UTTERLY depressed.

Maybe that's why I don't like pubs. :O

Quote: Tim Walker @ January 29 2012, 11:18 PM GMT

Fair point. But... ***SPOILER ALERT*** ...to have the lead character die from the disease whilst being f**ked by Elizabeth Shue in some quasi-religious manner is romanticising a bit too much, if you ask me. Alcoholics who drink themselves to death pretty much die alone, having alienated and rejected everyone around them. Also, the movie didn't really explore the nature of the disease at all. It gave some vague allusion to a broken marriage in the lead character's past, but never showed any inclination (or probably didn't have any idea how to) explore this backstory.

To me it's very much style over substance. Nothing wrong with that in a movie, but I wouldn't consider it an exploration of alcoholism.

Oh yeah, I definitely agree that the ending is problematic, and that it's not a particularly in depth study of alcoholism, but as a story I like that they never really explain why he's like he is. And that we just see a snapshot of him at the end and have to fill in the blanks ourselves.

Quote: AJGO @ January 29 2012, 11:29 PM GMT

Considering going to Chernobyl at some point, that's not the same tackiness as a war holiday, right? Errr

CAN I COME?

Good thing youze not a fella

chernobyl fall off!

Ach but why not? Nb if your interested in the cold war architecture, there are some very interested bunkers etc you can visit in the UK

And even the sites of Britains nuclear testing program (well alright the explosive bits that were part of the program)

Quote: zooo @ January 29 2012, 11:31 PM GMT

CAN I COME?

*runs away for fear of contamination*

Quote: zooo @ January 29 2012, 11:30 PM GMT

I haven't seen that film since I was about 16 (during my Nic Cage phase), all I remember is it made me associate watching people drinking a lot with feeling UTTERLY depressed.

Be glad that was your reaction to it. :)

The first time I watched it, it made me excited and want to go out and drink a whole lot more. And I often used to put the movie on when I was depressed and drank along to it.

Thankfully, those dark days are (hopefully forever) behind me. :)

Quote: zooo @ January 29 2012, 11:31 PM GMT

CAN I COME?

How is Chernobyl Charlie coming along? Or has it gone the way of Leper Fight? :(

Quote: Tim Walker @ January 29 2012, 11:37 PM GMT

Be glad that was your reaction to it. :)

The first time I watched it, it made me excited and want to go out and drink a whole lot more. And I often used to put the movie on when I was depressed and drank along to it.

Oh no!
Figgis #Fail.

Quote: zooo @ January 29 2012, 11:31 PM GMT

CAN I COME?

Of course my dear; I'll sort accommodation and flights, you get the boiler suits with gas masks in pastel colours with a cinched waist

Good for you Tim

I suppose like Trainspotting made heroin addiction look cool

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