Quote: Renegade Carpark @ January 13 2012, 2:06 PM GMTThat's to show he is emotionally damaged and thus sympathetic.
Indeed, and as I've said, that's all very nice, but it also shows just how badly he can get things wrong, and devalues his 'genius' status. It makes him look more like a savant.
Quote: Nogget @ January 13 2012, 2:22 PM GMTIndeed, and as I've said, that's all very nice, but it also shows just how badly he can get things wrong, and devalues his 'genius' status. It makes him look more like a savant.
As much as I'd like to watch Robot Detective, the computer who solves crimes, it would get tedious after a while.
As for the savant, they hint several times in the script that he might have 'ass burgers'.
Robocop detective would be ace though.
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 2:34 PM GMTRabbicop detective would be ace though.
Shylock Holmeivitch -
'Oy vey! Who would murder such a nice gentile on a Saturday? And there's blood all over the expensive rug. Have these people never heard of poison? Etc., etc.'
What am I thinking?! In a Jewish Sherlock, the Doctor would be the star.
Sherlock O'Homes
Too be sure Dr Watson some banjax has turned me spoods into dust, what heathen jackanapes would vex them so?
O'Homes you moron that's a packet of smash!
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 2:55 PM GMTSherlock O'Homes
Too be sure Dr Watson some banjax has turned me spoods into dust, what heathen jackanapes would vex them so?
O'Homes you moron that's a packet of smash!
'Whatever's impossible...um, rule out the improbable...oh, feck it, the black guy did it.'
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 13 2012, 10:24 AM GMTThe whole reason for them doing the show was to produce a modern day take on it, plus there's already a million takes on it in it's original time.
Well they made it for the money and the blowjobs, not as an experiment in style.
The problem is they aren't really giving 'their take' on it, not in the sense you mean - early 20th century etymology - derived from the film industry practice of filming a scene multiple times with variation in performance.
With Sherlock the word 'take' is best understood in the sense of 'appropriate' (ait - sounding ending) or the casino sense of 'takings' since there is near fraud in the 'created by' credit. If you take away the title the show doesn't even make sense.
Quote: Marc P @ January 13 2012, 10:25 AM GMTWasn't Jonathan Creek a modern take on it or did I miss something? Apart from the name of course?
Jonathan Creek is a brilliant take on SH and without a doubt one of the best light entertainment show concepts ever created. It would have spawned hundreds of imitators if there were any writers in TV good enough to copy it. Even Renwick couldn't always manage to step up to the job.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ January 13 2012, 3:02 PM GMT
'Whatever's impossible...um, rule out the improbable...oh, feck it, the black guy did it.'
Too be sure officer it was them 5 lads I mean what were they doin' in of Guilford of all places in Mary's name?
Quote: Godot Taxis @ January 13 2012, 3:57 PM GMTWell they made it for the money and the blowjobs, not as an experiment in style.
The problem is they aren't really giving 'their take' on it, not in the sense you mean - early 20th century etymology - derived from the film industry practice of filming a scene multiple times with variation in performance.
With Sherlock the word 'take' is best understood in the sense of 'appropriate' (ait - sounding ending) or the casino sense of 'takings' since there is near fraud in the 'created by' credit. If you take away the title the show doesn't even make sense.
Jonathan Creek is a brilliant take on SH and without a doubt one of the best light entertainment show concepts ever created. It would have spawned hundreds of imitators if there were any writers in TV good enough to copy it. Even Renwick couldn't always manage to step up to the job.
Jonathon Creek is the rare breed of old cop shows I'll watch again. It's funny, sprightly, lovely characters. And there's one proper bloody mystery each episode. One case to be solved thank you very much.
And it makes perfect bloody sense.
Watching Sherlock by comparisin looks rackety, pretensious and focus group drive.
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 4:32 PM GMTWatching Sherlock by comparisin looks rackety, pretensious and focus group drive.
Or just a sometimes very, very fun show full of fizz and enjoyment, sometimes a bit slow.
I mean Sherlock is great I watch, I enjoy it.
But compare to the thumpingly solid Life on Mars. Or Jonathon Creek a genuine Sherlockean mystery show and it ain't as good.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 13 2012, 4:40 PM GMTOr just a sometimes very, very fun show full of fizz and enjoyment, sometimes a bit slow.
What's Moffat got on you, Stott? 
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 4:42 PM GMTI mean Sherlock is great I watch, I enjoy it.
But compare to the thumpingly solid Life on Mars. Or Jonathon Creek a genuine Sherlockean mystery show and it ain't as good.
Why compare though? Why not just take the show on its own terms? It's not as good as Breaking Bad either, but that's besides the point.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 13 2012, 4:44 PM GMTWhy compare though? Why not just take the show on its own terms? It's not as good as Breaking Bad either, but that's besides the point.
But there's nothing wrong with wanting shows to be better. You can still like something and still see it's faults. It's not treason to do that.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 13 2012, 4:40 PM GMTOr just a sometimes very, very fun show full of fizz and enjoyment, sometimes a bit slow.
We are not short of crime dramas on the telly. Most of them are CSI rip offs full of dysfunctional female detectives making their way in a sexist world full of alcoholic coppers on the take. (Yawn!)
Sherlock is pure entertainment and doesn't get bogged down in it's own 'importance'. It is a welcome relief from all the serious, yet just as far fetched and mistake ridden, crime dramas being pumped out every second Wednesday.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ January 13 2012, 4:50 PM GMTSherlock is pure entertainment and doesn't get bogged down in it's own 'importance'.
Or bogged down in "excitement", if the Baskerville episode was anything to go by.