I used to like singing the Hymns in Primary school assembly. I wonder how many schools still do that.
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I liked some of the hymns. Although some were just songs (That the ink is black, the page is white one was ace.)
I actually used to sing along then too, now I would just mime the words, or look at the floor and shuffle my feet.
Quote: Tim Fezziwigl @ January 11 2012, 1:22 PM GMTI know alot of atheists. They want to hammer the facts all the time. I may have worded it wrong. I would say alot of "smart" people think they have have it all figured out. I have some really smart friends. None of them believe in God. I'm no zealot. I believe in karma.
You beleive in karma and be an atheist, it's Probability theory
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 13 2012, 12:51 PM GMTI used to like singing the Hymns in Primary school assembly. I wonder how many schools still do that.
No idea I'm normally only there around lunchtime and 3.30.
Quote: zooo @ January 13 2012, 12:53 PM GMTI liked some of the hymns. Although some were just songs (That the ink is black, the page is white one was ace.)
I actually used to sing along then too, now I would just mime the words, or look at the floor and shuffle my feet.
All our songs were in Welsh. Which didn't help I can't speak Welsh.
Quote: Gavin @ January 13 2012, 12:43 PM GMTThey never asked just assumedthat's why we were there sat with the other religious guys so looked like we belonged. I bloody hated assembly, sat next to some smelly f**k who would breath down your ear the whole time, then scream only certain words of songs. Actually I think the school was quite religious or just didn't have much to say so padded with choir.
Ha ha, that brings back a memory of my primary school assemblies; there was a boy called Nicholas Chumberly who always wet himself. Pupils would do anything to avoid sitting next to him but any new pupil who didn't know was encouraged to do it. I wonder what happened to him.
I have a staunchly Christian mate who gets very annoyed indeed when I have questions about God. Even if the questions are just me being curious, he sees it as somehow blasphemous and just won't discuss it. I take that as him being afraid to ask questions because if he does, the whole tissue-thin world that he gives his life to will collapse.
He once joked that I'll go to Hell because I drink and smoke but it turned nasty when I said "But God made me like that". He said "No he didn't, he gave you free will and you abused it". So I said "But even when he gave me free will, he must have known what I'd do with it, because he's God. So what's he all upset about if he knew what I'd turn out like anyway?". He replied "Well of course he didn't know how you'd turn out." And I said "So what you're saying is, God DOESN'T know everything? Which makes him fallible?".
And Lo, there was a mighty silence, for he knoweth not what to say. And verily I said "Well?" And great was his anger and he spake a parable unto me, and that parable was "Oh f**k off!"
But supposing God created these desires in you to test you and give you the chance to prove your fortuity of character?
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 1:12 PM GMTBut supposing God created these desires in you to test you and give you the chance to prove your fortuity of character?
Then he's a dick.
Quote: Loopey @ January 13 2012, 1:05 PM GMTHa ha, that brings back a memory of my primary school assemblies; there was a boy called Nicholas Chumberly who always wet himself. Pupils would do anything to avoid sitting next to him but any new pupil who didn't know was encouraged to do it. I wonder what happened to him.
When we were caught and wrangled in I had to sit next to one of the girls, Jenny? Becky? something with a Y. she used to wear tiny skirts and I hated standing next to her coz boys used to stare at her because I was on the outside I'd look around to a sea of glares from horny teenagers trying to will me out of existence with their minds to see her.
I hated school.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 13 2012, 1:13 PM GMTThen he's a dick.
People like a challenge.
Are you calling the guy who set the challenges on the Krypton factor a dick?
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 1:16 PM GMTPeople like a challenge.
Liar!
I like a challenge
People always tell me that I'm challenged
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 1:12 PM GMTBut supposing God created these desires in you to test you and give you the chance to prove your fortuity of character?
But that suggests that God didn't know the outcome. Why would he test me if he already knew what I'd do? And if he didn't know, then surely that suggests that God is NOT all-knowing, which is impossible, right?
God maybe all knowing, but that doesn't deny he's going to be interested in what happens.
By should his certainty effect things? Perhaps the whole thing is how you face the inevitable...
Quote: sootyj @ January 13 2012, 1:22 PM GMTGod maybe all knowing, but that doesn't deny he's going to be interested in what happens.
By should his certainty effect things? Perhaps the whole thing is how you face the inevitable...
Like how a baby faces being beaten to death? If they do it with a stiff upper lip, straight up to Heaven!
Yeah that's right, I went straight to dead babies. It's the Hitler move of the God conversation. 