Quote: chipolata @ January 1 2012, 11:22 PM GMTSherlock also has the advantage over Who in that it's based, albeit very loosely, on strong source material. With Who Moff has complete free reign, which is perhaps the problem.
He has been able to come up with a few good things from scratch in Who, you know!
Quote: Matthew Stott @ January 1 2012, 11:25 PM GMTHe has been able to come up with a few good things from scratch in Who, you know!
But he wasn't top dog then, RTD was. Perhaps he's better on a leash.
Quote: chipolata @ January 1 2012, 9:40 PM GMTEnjoyable opening episode. Started well, lost focus and drifted a bit in the second act, but got back on track at the end. Still think they'd be better at 60 minutes, though.
This.
Quote: chipolata @ January 1 2012, 11:22 PM GMTSherlock also has the advantage over Who in that it's based, albeit very loosely, on strong source material. With Who Moff has complete free reign, which is perhaps the problem.
Who seems to be getting quite a bashing round these parts. The first half of season six was as good as it has been since it's revival in my eyes. It strikes me that because Who is such a massive cult show, many different people want such different things from it, that it is impossible to please everybody. Moffat's script for 'A Good Man Goes to War' was equally as good as his script for the Sherlock episode tonight. Neither Who nor Sherlock have a problem, they are both in the hands of a fantastic writer.
Quote: Mickeza @ January 1 2012, 11:35 PM GMTMoffat's script for 'A Good Man Goes to War' was equally as good as his script for the Sherlock episode tonight.
It really wasn't.
Quote: chipolata @ January 1 2012, 11:29 PM GMTBut he wasn't top dog then, RTD was. Perhaps he's better on a leash.
Well, a few good things since he took over, too. And actually, he was the only writer RTD never told what to do. Anyway, lets not turn this into a Who thread!
I enjoyed it, but having been distracted occasionally, perhaps someone here can clarify the plot for me. Had The Woman been working for Moriarty all along?
Irene was depicted here as an independent contractor, albeit one who worked with Moriarty. I think my niggle came down to the comparison with the original (yes I know its a free adaptation) where Irene actually bested Sherlock rather than relying on him to rescue her.
Quote: Nogget @ January 2 2012, 10:59 AM GMTI enjoyed it, but having been distracted occasionally, perhaps someone here can clarify the plot for me. Had The Woman been working for Moriarty all along?
Working with his help, not for him; she was the one who called him at the start, and stopped him killing Holmes And Watson.
I rather like this mishevious not all the way dark holmes
Dark characters are a little easy, but Holmes refusing to wear pants and apologising for insulting his client is fun. It gives so much more to reflect on when they do darker episodes.
Irene was lucky to have been kidnapped by incompetent terrorists else she'd have never escaped.
Always with the negative Chip. 
I really enjoyed it, but pre-watershed?! 
Just glad my nan wasn't still visiting and so watching with us!
And the Twitter account "The Whiphand" actually exists! 
Oh bum off about the watershed already. Beastenders and all that crap are full of domestic violence, murder, rape, bad fake swearing and nastiness.
In this one a lovely lady most decorously wandered around with no clothes on for a little bit. It was reminesent of Dynasty or something.
Perhaps the referencing of fetish sex was a little strong though (and the implication Kate was her client bordering on treason).
Only real weakness. That both Holmes and Watson have to have potential famale love interests so we don't worry they might be a pair of homosexualists. Grow up, who cares!
(infentisimal niggle that one)
