Sooty his bank account was in arrears, no 'business plan' like every other driver. He realised that all that info was bollocks he took in bank'arrears' in but the 'self employed' meant no help at all? wierd.
Any way he has now started deliveries for Chinese chippy, so surviving without help that is so difficult to obtain, meaning dissenfrachised from all help cos you don't tick the boxes ; so go away and die.
I've never heard of the job centre asking to see a business plan, they really have better things to do with their time.
He was fibbing to you.
OK it is my son, and he was not f**kin lying. Really depressed now.
Was the business plan that thing where you have to show all the jobs you've applied for to get any money? Cos that's horrible, especially when you're volunteering or attempting self-employed, and they completely discount that you're making an effort because you haven't got a stack of print-outs? Especially stressful for people who can't afford newspapers, let alone internet.
Quote: dellas @ December 9 2011, 10:47 AM GMT
Ok that makes everything clearer.
Sorry didn't realise the relationship.
In which case I think you need to look at getting some good advice for him. The job centre has literally no imagination and will process claims once they have all the info they need.
I work with a woman with a disability who earns about £15 4 times a year visiting carehomes.
I'm trying to stop the job centre sending her monthly threatening letters demanding to see none existent pay slips.
So I think his best bet is to make it clear if he is working or isn't. Seriously that area of confusion is just to much for them. And even then he runs the risk of losing out on the first few months of payments as he tries to prove he didn't make himself voluntairily redundant.
Can he cancel his contract with the cab office and get that put in writing, then show his bank statements to show he was making no profit whilst working for them?
Quote: AJGO @ December 9 2011, 10:51 AM GMTWas the business plan that thing where you have to show all the jobs you've applied for to get any money? Cos that's horrible, especially when you're volunteering or attempting self-employed, and they completely discount that you're making an effort because you haven't got a stack of print-outs? Especially stressful for people who can't afford newspapers, let alone internet.
And other people just fill in 2 panels of their little green book
1 "read local paper"
2 "phoned 2 employers"
the benefit system is certainly clunky, mean, unimaginative and expensive for all the wrong reasons.
NO and NO, he's just gone on to another crap job, the debts are still there,even with my advice it is so difficult.
Thanks for interest.
Well atleast he's got a job.
How bad are the debts? Are they affordable?
Most creditors are willing to negotiate, especially if you do it through a 3rd party.
Sadly even more so if you don't have much worth reposessing.
If you're renegotiating you can interest and stuff frozen.
I always get a kick out of getting debts waved completely, by companies who didn't relaise they were lending to people who had issues with capacity.
Quote: sootyj @ December 9 2011, 11:07 AM GMTAnd other people just fill in 2 panels of their little green book
1 "read local paper"
2 "phoned 2 employers"the benefit system is certainly clunky, mean, unimaginative and expensive for all the wrong reasons.
Yup. Astonishingly depressing that for people who want to work, the job centre is adamantly unhelpful. And then you get so much prejudice from people who've never had to deal with them, not understanding that lots of people on benefits would bloody love a job- and that the job centre should really be done under the trade descriptions act.
And that sign off before you start, boils my piss.
Well done you got a job now get no money for the first month you're working. What do I live on?
The savings you weren't able to make because of how low we set JSA.
Not to mention how it can't handle flexi work hours at all.
And no point getting a low paid part time job to help build experience or update skills, and save up for sign off period, because then you're not entitled to same benefits and so can't afford your rent/bills/food.
And don't bother applying for jobs that require NVQs, cos they have to be sponsored by the workplace that you don't have, even when you have plenty of practical experience or alternative qualifications in the area, and the job centre won't give help with gaining them although they can afford to make people who know how to programme computers go on a course for basic compuing skills under threat of stopping payments.
And don't bother trying to get any voluntary work that might lead to future earnings in some way, because at some point it'll clash with a compulsory class on how to write a cv even though your cv got you the opportunity of work experience in the first place and your advisor concedes that it's fine but there's nothing they can do about mandatory attendance.
I can only assume the government is trying to get everyone to kill themselves so they don't turn into pesky elderly people, with their excessive heating allowance and generous state pensions.
The compulsory CV class where half the students need to be told how to use a pen.
Not to mention, earn too much?
Goodbye JSA and goodbye housing benefit.
The plateau affect with benefits which make study, training and employment unaffordable is ridiculous. The last serious attempt to over haul the system was GordyBs tax credits. They should be looked at again.
I have had to cope when 16 yr olds were not included in my benefit, so to have any income they had to be on 'job creation' for £30 a week, or nothing.
Really really tough, as not everyone could get a placement, you had to be literate for a start.
Ido not know how I fed us all on £40? my bloody water bill was £8 per week, needless to say, had a CCJ on that that took me 3 yrs to pay off.
Christ, You know practically my life story- except the bad bits! end now.
Ta a lot for helpful stuff, and the care, I appreciate it a lot x
I'm hoping to train as a benefits adviser next year.
Pretty f**king sad that it seems the most useful thing I can do in my work; more so than CBT or counselling.
Goodluck with the benefits and job stuff
Thanks Sooty and sure you will do well, we need you!
I used to be a Welfare Rights worker (when there were 'rights)
Quote: sootyj @ December 10 2011, 9:14 AM GMTI'm hoping to train as a benefits adviser next year.
Pretty f**king sad that it seems the most useful thing I can do in my work; more so than CBT or counselling.
What area of benefits are you thinking of working in?