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Fresh Meat - Series 1 Page 7

Quote: Jakkifreeze @ October 20 2011, 4:35 PM BST

Any chance a sitcom soon could have someone likeable as a main character?

Hope not. Who wants to see a good-looking, intelligent, popular, witty character saying funny, clever things whilst being adored by all and sundry?

In short, what I'm saying is, you need a sitcom monster. Brent, Fawlty, Partridge etc - great comedy characters, horrible people.

Quote: Jakkifreeze @ October 20 2011, 4:35 PM BST

Any chance a sitcom soon could have someone likeable as a main character?

Eh?

Lots of good sitcoms have had likeable main characters. The comedy doesn't have to come from the character always, it can come from the situation - The Good Life, Butterflies, Man About The House, Vicar Of Dibley, most family sitcoms. The Americans make a lot of sitcoms with a normal likeable main character. It's us Brits who have excelled at the sitcom monster, and long may it continue.

Ok, very good. Some people like it, some people hate it.

For those that like it, what were your thoughts on the portrayal of the police in the 5th episode. I thought it was laughable. Did you see those people dressed in black start tearing up the street and when the cops came they just ushered everyone along? In real life they would have got their face smashed in, thrown to the ground, arrested and put in a cell.

I guess the show is not trying to make a statement but with all the bullshit that's come out how violent the cops are it seems not just unrealistic but in fact paints their conduct in a favourable light. They're just our friendly uncles and aunts who don't want to see us come to harm. Bullshit.

Anyway, I was unhappy about that but it's not unexpected. Wouldn't expect to see anything in which the police are challenged on TV.

Anyone else have a thought on that?

Not really. I'm not sure a fairly lighthearted sitcom is the place for police brutality...

Quote: Simon Kenny @ October 21 2011, 1:36 PM BST

Ok, very good. Some people like it, some people hate it.

For those that like it, what were your thoughts on the portrayal of the police in the 5th episode. I thought it was laughable. Did you see those people dressed in black start tearing up the street and when the cops came they just ushered everyone along? In real life they would have got their face smashed in, thrown to the ground, arrested and put in a cell.

I guess the show is not trying to make a statement but with all the bullshit that's come out how violent the cops are it seems not just unrealistic but in fact paints their conduct in a favourable light. They're just our friendly uncles and aunts who don't want to see us come to harm. Bullshit.

Anyway, I was unhappy about that but it's not unexpected. Wouldn't expect to see anything in which the police are challenged on TV.

Anyone else have a thought on that?

I'm not an apologist for many policing methods, but media reports said that 52000 people attended, 200 were arrested, 84 protesters were notably injured and 31 police officers injured. The kettling etc was highly morally disputable but considering the figures it would have been an odd portayal to have every scene filled with people having the shit kicked out of them, even if that was the plot or point of the episode

Quote: shaggy292 @ October 20 2011, 10:09 PM BST

Hope not. Who wants to see a good-looking, intelligent, popular, witty character saying funny, clever things whilst being adored by all and sundry?

Doesn't have to be adored by other people they meet in the world of the sitcom, but empathetic to the audience. I love The Office, Fawlty Towers and Alan Partridge, so much so that I think a sitcom with a new angle would be nice as continuing in the vein of hapless main characters will just mean these sitcoms are pale imitations of their predecessors.

And family sitcoms...God. If something appeals to a whole family, it's definitely doing something wrong. If I ever had a sitcom that airs, I'd hope the majority of my family would find it distasteful and unfunny. :D

Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 20 2011, 2:02 PM BST

Since when has realism been a pre-requisite of comedy? The only thing a comedy has to be is real to the world and the characters it sets up.

And this is my point, dunderhead. It has no comedy and isn't real to the world and the characters it sets up. I thought you'd understand this.

Laughing out loud

Quote: alienep @ October 21 2011, 7:18 PM BST

And this is my point, dunderhead. It has no comedy and isn't real to the world and the characters it sets up. I thought you'd understand this.

No need to be rude. Cease and desist please.

Quote: alienep @ October 21 2011, 7:18 PM BST

And this is my point, dunderhead. It has no comedy and isn't real to the world and the characters it sets up. I thought you'd understand this.

I understand that you're a prick, yes.

Quote: zooo @ October 21 2011, 7:27 PM BST

No need to be rude. Cease and desist please.

And by 'prick' I obviously don't mean anything nasty or rude. Whistling nnocently

Quote: zooo @ October 17 2011, 11:29 PM BST

I think Vod might be my hero or something.
That spikey hat was awesome. If they remake Tank Girl in the near future, she needs to be her.

Yeah, I like Vod too. Scottish guy is funny, and Jack Whitehall has been surprising good.

Quite liked this episode. There were quite a few funny lines in it, so I was laughing a lot. Not a great fan of Vod, but she came across better in this episode than anything previously as her and Oregon are actually 'mates' and it's the first time she's actually 'needed' Oregon rather than 'used', so I quite liked that relationship development.

I was glad Howard found his mate, but that was pretty much wasted completely in this episode.

Jack Whitehall is playing the part of prick JD *supremely*. I like him a little bit more for being such a twat so well!

Agree about Josie: confusing signals. What are we supposed to think?

Still, not as good as last week but much better than episodes 2 and 3.

Dan

Quote: swerytd @ October 22 2011, 4:03 PM BST

Agree about Josie: confusing signals. What are we supposed to think?

I don't know why people find Josie confusing, she's a typical student, shagging other attractive students. It's Oregon's character I can't understand, I fail to see what she's geting out of her affair with the older guy. It makes my skin crawl.

I *think* it's part of her general trying to be a 'typical student'. Or what she thinks one is, if you know what I mean.
And also they pretty much said it was partly a father substitute thing in the most recent episode.

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