I doubt there will be much of an increase in the number of morbidly obese people who are so large that they need special beds. A guy my height (5' 9") is considered obese at about 200 pounds. I imagine you're looking at a predicted increase of 20-40 pounds and not hundreds of pounds.
People who are that fat that the have to go to hospital should be treated on the car park during the day and then covered with tarpaulin of a night.
Then at 4am when the streets are quiet they should be lured from under their covers by a large steak & kidney pie covered in sugar that is hanging from some fishing line that is attached to a helicopter.
The copter can then lead them by their porky pig noses through the streets at a brisk pace, this would free up beds and help them exercise and get some weight off.
But will the government listen, will they f**k.
Had to laugh Teddy but to just be serious, there are 850,000 morbidly obese in England Now, so with 40% rise we will need the hospital beds as AJGO has stated. 
DaButt yes the range is 40kg of excess of BMI.(obesity survey 2008NHS)
A 40% increase in obesity does not necessarily equal a 40% increase in morbid obesity.
Quote: AJGO @ August 26 2011, 1:55 PM BSTa planned bed location and adequate staff so that patients can be moved if there is a fire.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/26/chinese-patient-dies-staff-flee
Quote: Nogget @ August 26 2011, 5:55 AM BSTThe article didn't say they've had anything yet, but that the plan is for private investors to be asked to give a bond of £100,000 per family.
Yes it does, in a way
The government has put the annual bill for assisting the UK's most deprived families at more than £4bn a year, representing an average of nearly £100,000 per family.
But the Gov't procedures must be seriously inefficient to be spending an average of £100,000 per family. I wonder what tiny percentage of that £100,000 actually goes directly to the deprived families.
Every now and then this forum does manage to disapoint me.
Still picking on the overweight is a slight improvement of the previous prediliction for racism.
I do sometimes wonder why some people bother posting. At times the fashion for rape jokes, moaning about female comics, racist jokes and all the other dreary typage. Well is it as little fun to type it as it is to read it?
It is all smoke and mirrors, to address a problem of this magnitude you would need a ten year plan that had heavy investments that was indexed linked.
Given that the average life of a parliament is 4/5 years, you would need to have a group of politicians that were prepared to invest in a project that would not bear fruition within their parliamentary lifetime and what's more could possibly yield results during the oppositions tenure.
Seeing that most politicians are more concerned about lasting till the next Friday it is a pointless pursuit.
The other problem is that most of the people offering opinions on the subject are unable to distinguish between an 'Idea' and a 'Plan' the first is pure conjecture and speculation whilst the latter is a logistically sound and is comprehensive in its approach, with agreed mechanisms within it that ensure specified targets are met on time and within agreed budgets.
Its much easier to stop all benefits, then arm the unemployed and have them chase fat people for their money. They would also get a bonus for attacking dysfunctional families!
But will the government listen? will they f**k!
Teddy this is just a dreary windup.
Good luck to you.
Why not alternate it with your hilarious swearing scouser persona?
I am surprised at how much my patience for time wasting pseudo posters has run out. I mean I used to think people like you were mischevious and funny like that seagull that learned to shop lift.
And now meh enjoy yourself.
Sooty I'm sorry but I haven't got a f**king scouse persona, that's really what I'm like!
It comes and goes...
greatest probable in beating a polygraph ain't the stress its consistency.
Remember its not a lie if you believe it!
Quote: AJGO @ August 26 2011, 1:55 PM BSTMate, wasn't referring to people who are overweight, and as a smoker and a fan of the junk food not in a position to criticise anyone else. But a 40% increase in obesity will require a whole lot more bariatric beds than are currently available, and there are laws that on wards there has to be a planned bed location and adequate staff so that patients can be moved if there is a fire. So if beds take up even a little more space or patients are slightly more difficult to move, there will be less bed and space availability, meaning that there are hidden knock on effects to patients being treated for other things. Unless they build more wards and hire more staff, but this seems unlikely.
Hope this doesn't read as a rant against anyone at all receiving treatment that they're entitled to, in a sympathetic and effective way. Just thinking of practical problems posed by the previous post
The standard hospital bed takes upto about 350-400 lbs and concurrent increase in waiste size. That's all the way upto type 2 morbid obesity.
Barriatric beds start at 450lbs which is type 3 obesity and supermordbid obesity. The same figures apply to hoists, slings, showers, wheel chairs etc.
Which is a tiny percentage of the obese population and a tinier still population of the overall population..
Fat people truly are not making your hospital an over priced no go area.
AJGO I am in fairness a little disapointed in you. The other's not really surprised.
Quote: Teddy Paddalack @ August 26 2011, 3:23 PM BSTRemember its not a lie if you believe it!
Teddy if you convince yourself then I wish the two of you a long and happy life together,
[quote name="Teddy Paddalack" post="802226" date="August 26 2011, 3:23 PM BST"]Remember its not a lie if you believ
Quote: sootyj @ August 26 2011, 3:33 PM BSTThe standard hospital bed takes upto about 350-400 lbs and concurrent increase in waiste size. That's all the way upto type 2 morbid obesity.
Barriatric beds start at 450lbs which is type 3 obesity and supermordbid obesity. The same figures apply to hoists, slings, showers, wheel chairs etc.
Which is a tiny percentage of the obese population and a tinier still population of the overall population..
Fat people truly are not making your hospital an over priced no go area.
AJGO I am in fairness a little disapointed in you.
Well thank you for contributing those facts, I wasn't able to find similar which is why I was speculating about the possible effects of a 40% increase.
I'm not sure where you got the impression that I think badly of 'fat people', and I haven't said that hospitals are, or will be, over priced no go areas.
My comments were written from the perspective of pondering what could happen to patients should this increase occur considering that the government has so little money they're asking for private contributions for social schemes, and whether tactics such as junk food taxes would be helpful or fair to people who require financial assistance with medical care in the future.
I have the utmost sympathy for anyone requiring medical care regardless of why or how, and am concerned that our government is/will be no longer in a position to provide it.
For a f**king comedy site this place is taking a nose dive, the last time I came across this many serious f**king people in one place I was in court.