Quote: sootyj @ June 22 2011, 11:14 PM BSTDiferent tension, diferent dramatic models.
Yeah, your right. In Doctor Who there's no tension and no drama. Just capering. But we're not having that discussion again because it's effing boring.
Quote: sootyj @ June 22 2011, 11:14 PM BSTDiferent tension, diferent dramatic models.
Yeah, your right. In Doctor Who there's no tension and no drama. Just capering. But we're not having that discussion again because it's effing boring.
You sir have more enui than Jean Paul Sartre, do you also have a snazzy polo neck and black beret?
I watched about 10 mins of an episode and thought it was awful. The novelty or him playing everyone and then blacking up (?!) wore off instantly. Didn't find it funny or original.
Quote: ContainsNuts @ June 25 2011, 3:09 PM BSTI watched about 10 mins of an episode and thought it was awful. The novelty or him playing everyone and then blacking up (?!) wore off instantly. Didn't find it funny or original.
Have you seen his other shows? He always plays multiple characters, and quite well IMHO.
However, S.mouse is probably the character I like the least on all the shows he's done.
I don't think any humour comes directly from the fact he is blacked up, infact he is far from a stereotypical black American.
I would even go on to sugest that being pecieved as a stereotypical black American is one of the things that the character Smouse wants most.
I think what people don't realize is that these days blacking up itself is not racist in itself, it really depends what the purpose is. All these storeys have to interlink at one point and the rapper (presummably) is an important part of that story, for Chris not to black up would mean he would have to rewrite large parts of the story.
I don't think him blacking up is racis, but I also think it's pointless. S. mouse could just have easily been a white wannabe rapper.
Very true. Hadn't thought of that.
He looks a tiny bit like Eminem actually.
Too be honest blacking up has such a poisenous history you really need one heck of a good excuse for doing it. Bit like using the P word, you can't suddenly reinvent it and ignore the history.
And S.Mouse doesn't even sound especially black.
I can't give this show a chance as the Australian accent grates on me and I don't like most of their humour. Although I admire the way (I believe) the main guy plays most of the characters. I may give it a watch, one day...
I expect he might have been worried that too many of his characters would have looked the same (ie, like himself). Who knows.
in which case he sucks as a performer
except he doesn't
maybe a bit like Little Britain where Walliams and Lucas wanted to make sure they kept all the funnt bits
In the same way he's written and played women, or kids, he's written and played someone who is black; is it sexist for him to play a woman? There are real women out there who could have played it, though of course part of his whole act is that he plays all the characters.
Nah it's much more than some characters are nuanced and funny and well thought out.
And some are just crude stereotypes.
Playing a rubbish black character (If it is rubbish, have barely watched this yet) is still not racist though.
I didn't say rubbish, I said crude and implied lacking in nuance
crude can be very funny.
But I think Lilley is so good at nuanced, that his crude stuff is just kinda poor.