DaButt
Tuesday 21st June 2011 11:55am
14,722 posts
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ June 21 2011, 9:35 AM BST
I do feel a little sorry for you dabutt. Not in a condescending way but because this argument is never going to be resolved. And the fact that you are outnumbered on this forum by people that have never seen a gun, never mind used one.
I'm not at all bothered by any of this. I don't expect anyone to change their opinion or even agree with me. I'm merely stating my opinion, correcting the occasional bad piece of information and describing situations from a point of view that some people might never have considered.
I feel sure that if either had, had a handgun tucked safely and legally away in the glove-box they would have used it.
I disagree. The fact that neither man actually struck the other one with his weapon indicates that neither one actually intended to harm the other, much less kill him.
What people need to consider are the actual laws regarding the licensed carrying of a concealed handgun:
1) It must be concealed. You can't use it to threaten anyone. You can't wave it around in an argument.
2) The instructors stressed that every bullet has a lawyer's name on it. There had better be clear evidence that you acted lawfully and in self-defence.
3) If you fail to follow the law you'll find yourself in prison just like any other thug charged with gun crimes.
Deadly force is only authorized if you fear for your life or you're stopping a murder, rape or robbery that us in progress. You can't shoot someone who is only shouting at you. In your example both men should have been arrested for their crimes. Personally, I would have stayed in my car. I would have done nothing while he pounded the fender with a bat but if he tried to smash my window and drag me from the car I would have shot him in the chest and would have been legally justified (in this country) for doing so. But it sounds like the guys were merely hot heads and not murderers. That's the case for most people.