Films that are not bad enough to be good. Page 2
Quote: chipolata @ June 6 2011, 10:42 AM BSTA Few Good Men is a great film with a great script by Aaron Sorkin.
Agree. Easily in my top three films ever.
Hmm Sex lives of the Potato Men, it's so thuddingly obvious and squanders such a stellar cast
Pretty much every lumpen, dreary predictable peice of crap Adam Sandler filmed.
Most chick flicks.
Any film by Judd Aptow or what ever his name is. Yawn I get it your a child man, Bill Murray did it better without swearing..
Quote: chipolata @ June 6 2011, 10:42 AM BSTA Few Good Men is a great film with a great script by Aaron Sorkin.
Yup.
Quote: chipolata @ June 6 2011, 10:34 AM BSTNow you're being silly, Tony.
Yup.
Quote: chipolata @ June 6 2011, 10:34 AM BSTNow you're being silly, Tony.
Why?
Ordinance disposal officers are highly trained and psychologically screened, a maverick officer would be put in the brig not lauded and allowed to go off with his team on jaunts into the desert (where they just happen to run into a load of British mercenaries, who are doing what exactly?).
Oh and also these highly trained ex-SAS (?) mercenaries are not able to fight off an ambush by a handful of insurgents but the three bomb disposal officers are?
Combat engineers are a high prized military resource, they aren't actually allowed to go off on jaunts wherever and whenever they want, like some sort of Scooby Doo/Mystery Machine mobile unit, they have to submit to the chain of command like other army units and would not be allowed anywhere without an armed escort unit.
Catherine Bigalow seems to think that they are "loose cannons" who "play by their own rules" which is absolute cobblers and an insult to the highly trained individuals who do a ridiculously dangerous job.
As I said, the whole film was absolute drivel and completely unrealistic. It only won an Oscar to piss off Bigalow's ex-husband, James Cameron.
Avatar was pants but it was just as realistic than this piece of garbage and it was, slightly, more entertaining.
Most war films are rather unrealistic.
The realistic ones like "Waltz with Bashir" or Tumbledown are hugely depressing and unexiting..
Ultimately war is a violent, random pointless exercise.
Quote: sootyj @ June 6 2011, 11:52 AM BSTMost war films are rather unrealistic..
But most war films are lauded for their "realism" in the way "The Hurt Locker" was.
"The Hurt Locker" was about as realistic as "Rambo 3".
Quote: Tony Cowards @ June 6 2011, 11:47 AM BSTWhy?
Ordinance disposal officers are highly trained and psychologically screened, a maverick officer would be put in the brig not lauded and allowed to go off with his team on jaunts into the desert (where they just happen to run into a load of British mercenaries, who are doing what exactly?).
Oh and also these highly trained ex-SAS (?) mercenaries are not able to fight off an ambush by a handful of insurgents but the three bomb disposal officers are?
Combat engineers are a high prized military resource, they aren't actually allowed to go off on jaunts wherever and whenever they want, like some sort of Scooby Doo/Mystery Machine mobile unit, they have to submit to the chain of command like other army units.
Catherine Bigalow seems to think that they are "loose cannons" who "play by their own rules" which is absolute cobblers and an insult to the highly trained individuals who do a ridiculously dangerous job.
As I said, the whole film was absolute drivel and completely unrealistic.
My advice.
Never go to see a film whose subject you know a lot about.
You will always be disapointed.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story is what they say.
The truth is often boring - that's what documentaries are for.
To the average Joe( ie the audience) with just a passing knowledge of these things, it was a tremendous film.
I have seen this 'maverick' device in other films I think.
Quote: Lazzard @ June 6 2011, 11:56 AM BSTMy advice.
Never go to see a film whose subject you know a lot about.
You will always be disapointed.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story is what they say.
The truth is often boring - that's what documentaries are for.
To the average Joe( ie the audience) with just a passing knowledge of these things, it was a tremendous film.
But the story is shit, hack, lazy writing.
Renegade who doesn't play by the rules - check.
Weary old timer who wants to just make it through the conflict - check.
Anxious newbie who doesn't really know what he's doing - check.
"Enemy" child who touches the heart of the soldier - check.
Etc, etc.
As war films go it's in the same bracket as rubbish like the John Wayne Vietnam propaganda film "The Green Berets".
Lazy, stereotypical rubbish, with no regard for realism, every scene seemed to me to be written by number (oh lets have a scene where they get drunk and "bond", because we're not good enough writers to do this in any other way). Personally I'm surprised that it didn't have a "Team America" style montage section.
Quote: Tony Cowards @ June 6 2011, 11:55 AM BSTBut most war films are lauded for their "realism" in the way "The Hurt Locker" was.
"The Hurt Locker" was about as realistic as "Rambo 3".
The film was written by a journalist, Mark Boal, who worked with a bomb disposal unit. He's been quoted as saying "It's not a documentary, This shouldn't feel like spinach; it's meant to be entertaining, and it's a summer movie"
Comments I've seen about its realism have tended to centred around the style of filming not the story line.
The central character is based on a real person who is suing them I believe.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35688925/ns/today-entertainment/t/bomb-expert-plans-sue-hurt-locker/
Not sure what the latest is.
This pretty much sums up my views on it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/sep/15/the-hurt-locker-another-view
Quote: phreaky @ June 6 2011, 12:07 PM BSTComments I've seen about its realism have tended to centred around the style of filming not the story line.
You obviously haven't read a lot of the comments, a lot of them from people who served in Iraq, that I have.
Quote: Tony Cowards @ June 6 2011, 12:18 PM BSTThis pretty much sums up my views on it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/sep/15/the-hurt-locker-another-view
"he just rocks up near a device and puts on a bomb suit. There's none of the usual military procedure: no planned operation, no isolation, no robots."
Drama is life with the dull bits cut out. - Alfred Hitchcock
Quote: Tony Cowards @ June 6 2011, 12:18 PM BSTYou obviously haven't read a lot of the comments, a lot of them from people who served in Iraq, that I have.
Sorry, I should have been clearer. The comments I was referring to come from reviews, not people who served in Iraq. The point being that I haven't seen reviews praising the realism of the story line.
Quote: Tony Cowards @ June 6 2011, 12:18 PM BSTThis pretty much sums up my views on it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/sep/15/the-hurt-locker-another-view You obviously haven't read a lot of the comments, a lot of them from people who served in Iraq, that I have.
I never knew you were capable of such passion, Cowards!