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Quote: Afinkawan @ May 17 2011, 11:58 AM BST

How exactly was I being 'a prick'?

You weren't only talking about the new show at all, you were talking about how TV should be made generally otherwise you wouldn't have said something like this:

Presumably a prick is anyone less angry and unreasonable than you. Perhaps you should try calming the f**k down for a bit.

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The 24 minute episode form for Doctor Who dates back to 1963 - as we all know. In the 80s they changed it to 45minutes. The show under RTD settled on whatever it is now - 50 minutes?

It's tedious to argue this. It's f**king obvious why you would start the series with a self contained episode. The fact that they didn't this time is because Moffat had to lay a lot of ground work for his big plan. He didn't tell me this - I've surmised it. The first show ending with no resolution pissed me off and no doubt lots of casual viewers. Not you fans, obviously.

I'm not in the least bit unreasonable. You can say anything to me and argue anything. You ought to know this Afinkawan, you've been a member for a while.

Quote: Timbo @ May 17 2011, 12:02 PM BST

*imagines Godot imagining himself as Joe Pesci*

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It's Robert DeNiro (Taxi Driver)

Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 17 2011, 12:09 PM BST

It's tedious to argue this. It's f**king obvious why you would start the series with a self contained episode.

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It isn't a rule, you don't have to, they decided to try something other than what they've done in the previous five series. And hopefully, intrigue enough of the floating viewers to tune in again for part 2. That seems to also be quite an obvious way to go, an obvious way to try and hook in more casual viewers; both have pros and cons.

You're most certainly right about it being a tedious thing to discuss though.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 17 2011, 12:09 PM BST

It's Robert DeNiro (Taxi Driver)

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Yes, I had in mind the scene in Goodfellas, which is set up differently. I was just amused by the idea that you might consider yourself to be intimidating.

Quote: Timbo @ May 17 2011, 12:16 PM BST

Yes, I had in mind the scene in Goodfellas, which is set up differently. I was just amused by the idea that you might consider yourself to be intimidating.

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Well the quote is from Taxi Driver but obviously you intended to characterise me as a short, stout Italian man with quiff and a cowboy tie, in the little theatre of your mind.

In reality I'm more like Iris (Jodie Foster).

Quote: Godot Taxis @ May 17 2011, 12:24 PM BST

in the little theatre of your mind.

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It is the best little theatre in town and provides me with endless amusement. I am sure you would be a disappointment if I were to meet you.

I wonder how long it will be until an episode where the Doctor meets Oscar Wilde, saves him from a mutant alien prawn bent on world domination, inspires some epigrams and ends up departing without intervening in a looming trial, explaining to his companion the importance of being a queer martyr and initiating prison reform? The dialogue could be amusingly execrable.

Quote: Kenneth @ May 17 2011, 12:39 PM BST

I wonder how long it will be until an episode where the Doctor meets Oscar Wilde, saves him from a mutant alien prawn bent on world domination, inspires some epigrams and ends up departing without intervening in a looming trial, explaining to his companion the importance of being a queer martyr and initiating prison reform? The dialogue could be amusingly execrable.

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Brilliant Kenneth. This will be RTD's inspiration for the much muttered about film. Especially the clunky dialogue.

Quote: Timbo @ May 17 2011, 12:30 PM BST

It is the best little theatre in town and provides me with endless amusement. I am sure you would be a disappointment if I were to meet you.

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I'm sure I wouldn't be disappointed.

But shortened the four-part stories to three. I guess 25 years from now nothing'll be longer than half an hour.

Every Tardis is fitted with gaydar.

It's the Doctor's time sensor from the Pertwee story The Time Monster. Jo Grant has to operate, or at least monitor, it.

JO: You know, Doctor, you're quite the most infuriating man I've ever met. I've asked you at least a million times, what is it?
DOCTOR: Extraordinary. I could have sworn I'd told you. It's a time sensor.
JO: Oh, I see.
DOCTOR: Do you? Well, what's it do then?
JO: Well, it, er.
DOCTOR: Mmm hmm?
JO: It, er, detects disturbances in a time field.
DOCTOR: Well done, Jo. You're learning. Exactly what you need if you happen to be looking for a Tardis.
JO: It's a Tardis sniffer-outer.
DOCTOR: Or any other time machine, for that matter. So, if the Master turns up again
JO: Bingo.
DOCTOR: As you so rightly say, Bingo.

EDIT: Being so innocent, I did not realise at first glance that it resembles a cock and balls.

Oops, I didn't notice that the first time around. I would get the episode out to see whether the actual prop was equally rude, but my old Who collection is now in a couple of cartons in a shipping container. Ah, here's a 'grab':

Critics of New Who dialogue note that this includes "Tardis sniffer-outer" and "bingo".

And a big cock and balls.

I don't recall whether any reference to the phallic shape of the time sensor was made on the DVD commentary to that story. As opposed to the commentary for The Creature from the Pit:

Quote: Badge @ May 17 2011, 11:58 PM BST

Critics of New Who dialogue note that this includes "Tardis sniffer-outer" and "bingo".

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Yes, but it's the companion who uses the baby talk, not the Doctor. And 'bingo' is a fine word, light years away from the infantile dross that is 'wibbly-wobby space-wacey timey-wimey'.

Quote: Kenneth @ May 18 2011, 12:05 AM BST

And 'bingo' is a fine word, light years away from the infantile dross that is 'wibbly-wobby space-wacey timey-wimey'.

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You know full well that wibbly-wobbly spacey-wacey timey-winey has not been used all at once. That's coming in episode 9 of this series.