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W.L.T.M

Not really, I do have a really stupid question though and I thought who can I ask? So here I am showing my absoloute ignorance (again). Here it is , no laughing at the back

Is there any kind of limit to the number of scenes you can put in each act of a play?

Bearing in mind there are only four environments throghout the play and they are all pretty basic in design. Most scenes last several minutes but I do have one that is only about 45 seconds long. I have looked on "how to" guides and tried to find an answer but without success (probably co's it's such a thick question)

Thanks in advance

That thick bloke from Batley

Quote: Griff @ May 6 2011, 9:24 PM BST

There's no rules. You can do what you like. Just be clear why you're doing it, and sure it's for a good reason.

Why are you doing it?

If I knew why I did anything Grif I would be a very content man. Angelic

But in regards to the scene changes in the play, the play contains a complicated theology which is the foundation for the story, I need to break the presentation of the theology in to parts to stop it from becoming a lecture. The theology offers the main back story which I hope is as interseting as the journey for the charecters and will hopefully be introduced bit by bit without being forced or laboured, the scene changes help not only with the theology, dramatisation and charecterisation but also with the pace of the piece. (i think)

p.s it is not a comedy screenplay (am I still allowed to ask?)

Howdy Batleywriter.

I've never written a play myself, but am working on one at the minute. The only advice I can give is - is it physically feasible for the stagehands/crew to somehow create this 45 second scene in some way without completely wrecking the rest of the setup?

If the play is strong enough I'm sure the director will find a way, so just go for it.

Is it a play or a screenplay - you change your mind at one point.
Obviously with a screenplay, short scenes are preferable....

Quote: Batleywriter @ May 6 2011, 9:01 PM BST

W.L.T.M

Not really, I do have a really stupid question though and I thought who can I ask? So here I am showing my absoloute ignorance (again). Here it is , no laughing at the back

Is there any kind of limit to the number of scenes you can put in each act of a play?

Bearing in mind there are only four environments throghout the play and they are all pretty basic in design. Most scenes last several minutes but I do have one that is only about 45 seconds long. I have looked on "how to" guides and tried to find an answer but without success (probably co's it's such a thick question)

Thanks in advance

That thick bloke from Batley

Depends how the play will be performed. Short scenes in stage plays are unrealistic as you will wear out the scene-shifter theatre staff and bore the audience with too much curtain closing.

Some plays have short interlude scenes that are performed in front of the curtain if no significant scenery is involved.

You don't need scene changes if you use different stage areas for different scenes - skilled lighting is needed and you have to be careful not to have too many 'pieces' of set (furniture etc).

Blackout and spotlight?

Quote: KLRiley @ May 7 2011, 11:25 AM BST

Blackout and spotlight?

Yes, but it doesn't only have to be spotlight - you can light different areas of the stage ... the actors have to make sure to keep in the light, or out of any 'spill' if they're not involved in that particular scene.

Sorry for not answering earlier, I got called out as soon as posted last night and have just got back.

Griff: Nothing wrong with having narrators or dramatised scenes from textbooks or whatever else you want to use to get your theology across. As long as the material is interesting in itself and contributes to the play without being dry exposition.

I purposely didn't want a narrator as I felt that I would be cheating by taking an easier route. That is just my opinion for thjis particular piece, I think a narrator can add to some works but not this. I hope the material is interesting and have had positive feedback from the few who have read it.

Griff: Of course if your brief scene explicitly calls for armies of archangels swooping down from Heaven while a choir sings something from Mahler then you may need to think again. But you haven't done that, right?

Bugger! Not really there are nine parts for seven actors, I would love an army of angels but unfortunately the writing budget wouldn't stretch to it never mind the performance one.

Frantically: The only advice I can give is - is it physically feasible for the stagehands/crew to somehow create this 45 second scene in some way without completely wrecking the rest of the setup?

Keewick: You don't need scene changes if you use different stage areas for different scenes - skilled lighting is needed and you have to be careful not to have too many 'pieces' of set (furniture etc).

I have really tried hard to keep the set numbers to a minimum and do have a scene where two sets are used at the same time, with one set being in conversation whilst the other is in mime. The biggest problem I could see is that the background could be kept basically the same for most scenes but the props need to change. The only saving grace is that there would be very few props needed but those props need to be used.

billwill: Depends how the play will be performed. Short scenes in stage plays are unrealistic as you will wear out the scene-shifter theatre staff and bore the audience with too much curtain closing.

That is my biggest concern, I have looked at a natural shift from one set to the other, and on two occasions have a scene set in a "Black Room" between scenes, where with just a bit of lighting only a small part of the stage needs to be used. I don't know if this woud allow the scene change to take place on another part of the stage or not, but as Frantically said "If the play is strong enough I'm sure the director will find a way, so just go for it"

Finally Lazzard it is definitely a play although I think turning it out as a screenplay and definitely a radioplay would be easier. But if theres no hardship theres no sense of acheivement, Right?

Thank you all for your replies and I really do feel better about it now, than I did last night, your advice has been great.

Batley

Depends on whether you intend fully realised 'sets' or less naturalistic settings.

I suspect 45 seconds is a bit short, regardless. It's a bit filmic, plays usually take a bit more time to explore ideas in depth rather than charge through plot.

Quote: Antrax @ May 7 2011, 2:35 PM BST

Depends on whether you intend fully realised 'sets' or less naturalistic settings.

I suspect 45 seconds is a bit short, regardless. It's a bit filmic, plays usually take a bit more time to explore ideas in depth rather than charge through plot.

Dont get hung up on the 45 seconds. Most scenes are in excess of 10 minutes and have interchanging between charecters, the 45 secinds is an important part of the plot. I could make it longer by adding stuffing but that would lessen the impact.

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