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The Melting Pot by Spike Milligan Page 2

Bux has been dead for more than 9 years - would have been a feat for Aldeem to be buying presents for him now. ;)

Quote: Kenneth @ January 3 2010, 12:24 PM GMT

So your sort-of stepfather was Ishaq Bux? He has an incredible resume, having appeared in all sorts of things, such as Barry McKenzie Holds His Own (I remember his scene was in the back of a van of illegal immigrants), Minder, On The Buses, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Metal Mickey and even a Carry On and a James Bond film. Up there with the ubiquitous Harry Fielder.

And several episodes of It Ain't Half Hot Mum.

Found this clip of Spike being interviewed on daytime TV by Derek Batey. Couldn't watch it to the end due to cringe-factor. I remember the theme tune too - I think it's opened old wounds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvLqrkLH48c

Anthony Brothers only has 5 credits on IMDB

Spike had a series called There's A Lot Of It About and even now I'm amazed it got through. Funny in parts, sure, but disturbingly racist and sexist. I'm hardly Germaine Greer but really...

Spike did seem to have some rather extreme material.
I always wondered if all the racist Asian stuff was because he genuinely considered himself an Indian?

Yes, Spike does seem to have considered himself quite Indian. He was reportedly affected by the move to England for the rest of his life.

I mean his stuff is qualitively diferent to Manning et al. There's actually a lot of affection in it.

Quote: Aaron @ January 6 2011, 11:25 PM GMT

Yes, Spike does seem to have considered himself quite Indian.

He considered himself Irish more than anything else.

Quote: Aaron @ January 6 2011, 11:25 PM GMT

He was reportedly affected by the move to England for the rest of his life.

Because his parents had to leave their comparatively comfortable lifestyle in India (and also Burma) and moved to dismal, depressing Catford.

Quote: sootyj @ January 6 2011, 8:52 AM GMT

Spike did seem to have some rather extreme material.
I always wondered if all the racist Asian stuff was because he genuinely considered himself an Indian?

It was the same with the actor Michael Bates who played an Indian in It Ain't Half Hot Mum; he was born in India and spoke fluent Hindi IIRC so therefore argued his portrayal wasn't racist.

I know second generation Indian immigrant girls who make fun of Indian boys from the subcontinent and the way they talk, so he may have a point of sorts. It is not exactly about race.

Quote: Kenneth @ January 7 2011, 10:48 AM GMT

He considered himself Irish more than anything else.

Debatable.

Spike had a total sense of self and identity that these days would have people wondering if he was an Aspie.

It's where much of his humour came from.

If he felt he was Indian and/or Irish there's bugger all BBC mandarins could do about it.

Quote: sootyj @ January 14 2011, 9:11 AM GMT

Debatable.

In 1962 the British Foreign Office refused to renew Spike's passport because he refused to swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen (considering it an insult because he had served in the war), so he went to the Irish Embassy and joined the republic. At that time he could have opted for Indian citizenship (or sworn allegiance to the Queen) - but he went for Irish. He was proud of his family's Irish heritage and proud to be Irish. Those who made the mistake of referring to him as an "Englishman" would likely be told: "F**k off, I'm Irish."

Quote: peter gazzard @ January 5 2011, 11:29 AM GMT

Anthony Brothers only has 5 credits on IMDB

Hi there, I only happened upon this today as I was actually going to update his IMDB listing http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1548325/ Tony, now in his 80s, was in much more stuff than he is credited for but I guess it's down to someone somewhere to keep it updated - or maybe many of the parts didn't merit a full cast credit. Either way, he led a colourful life in the acting profession when he was younger. The reason I thought about it today is he was in the 1960 film "Sink the Bismarck" that aired on Film 4 earlier today. Indeed, he phoned me up this morning from my mum's to tell me to watch it! He's the naval officer shouting "Shoot!" "Shoot!" just before the Bismarck blows HMS Hood out of the water. I actually managed to get quite a good screen shot of his big moment which I plan to print out and give to him as a memento some 52 years after his appearance!

It was 40 years ago that the BBC panicked and pulled the plug on this series after just one episode and never released them as ITV did with Curry and Chips.

I wonder whether we are missing much though not seeing even the one episode.

For example, I am a massive fan of Spike and Eric Sykes but was very disappointed by Curry and Chips, which may have been better if the two of them had written it and not Johnny Speight.

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