To me, the two have very little in common - just the 'No Trainers'.
The Carling ad is about Friendship.
Carling Stole My Sketch!!!!!!!!! Page 3
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 6:56 AMWell, Carling may have pinched your idea (nobody could prove they have or haven't in my opinion) but to my knowledge you can't copyright an idea.
"Carling Stole My Sketch!"
That's quite a strong statement you've made there, I just wondered from a legal point of view whether or not you could actually back that statement up in a court of law, you having studied law.
Having read your sketch and looked at the Carling Ad my feeling was that it used the same idea but that there was nothing directly 'stolen' other than (possibly) the idea.
Fx
A written piece of work is not 'an idea'
The reason i didin't want to go into the law was because it bores people but if you really want to know Frankie check out the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and, if you're really interested, read the judgement of Lord Scott in Designers guild Ltd v Russel Williams (Textiles) Ltd (No 2) 2001. Have fun and hope thats anwsers your questions 
Quote: JohnnyD @ December 3, 2007, 7:07 AMTo me, the two have very little in common - just the 'No Trainers'.
The Carling ad is about Friendship.
It's also cringeworthy.
Quote: ajp29 @ December 3, 2007, 9:08 AMA written piece of work is not 'an idea'
The reason i didin't want to go into the law was because it bores people but if you really want to know Frankie check out the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and, if you're really interested, read the judgement of Lord Scott in Designers guild Ltd v Russel Williams (Textiles) Ltd (No 2) 2001. Have fun and hope thats anwsers your questions
I'm not sure it does answer my question really.
"A written piece of work is not 'an idea'". I of course agree with that!
But the point about your written sketch that I was trying to make was that it was nothing like the Carling Ad. Only the 'No trainers' bit which was more the main 'idea' behind your sketch.
If you're pedantic enough to want to 'argue' with that, fair enough.
As for the rest of your above post, I'll pass on this occasion as I have some toast under the grill. But I will note it down for future reference and do thank you for taking the time to post it!
Frankie xxx
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 4:42 AMI can see how you may feel that your work has been stolen but out of interest to all us writers, and as you are a legal beagle:
1. Which copyright laws have Carling broken (if any)?
2. How have they broken those laws?
3. Could you sue Carling and win?
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 6:56 AMI just wondered from a legal point of view whether or not you could actually back that statement up in a court of law, you having studied law.
Quote: ajp29 @ December 3, 2007, 9:08 AMA written piece of work is not 'an idea'
The reason i didin't want to go into the law was because it bores people but if you really want to know Frankie check out the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and, if you're really interested, read the judgement of Lord Scott in Designers guild Ltd v Russel Williams (Textiles) Ltd (No 2) 2001. Have fun and hope thats anwsers your questions
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 10:10 AMI'm not sure it does answer my question really.
"A written piece of work is not 'an idea'". I of course agree with that!
But the point about your written sketch that I was trying to make was that it was nothing like the Carling Ad. Only the 'No trainers' bit which was more the main 'idea' behind your sketch.
If you're pedantic enough to want to 'argue' with that, fair enough.
As for the rest of your above post, I'll pass on this occasion as I have some toast under the grill. But I will note it down for future reference and do thank you for taking the time to post it!
Frankie xxx
Help me out Frankie how can I answer your question? Do you want the Legal Beagle answer or the idiot toaster answer? And again you appear to have thought that I was putting forward an arguement when I haven't 
Quote: ajp29 @ December 3, 2007, 10:45 AMHelp me out Frankie how can I answer your question?
I am happy to help you out!
What I was looking for was just a straight answer to a straight question!
Do you do those?
Addendum:
Adam I enjoy the banter but if you want to stop, it suits me Bud!
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 11:33 AMWhat I was looking for was just a straight answer to a straight question!
That implies that you asked one. And to take the argument further you didn't.
I thought I almost did at one point! 
Not wishing to take the 'argument' any further, I will sign off and thank you for your posts!
As it is, I've been able to answer my own questions by doing my own research,
1. Which copyright laws have Carling broken (if any)? NONE
2. How have they broken those laws? THEY HAVEN'T
3. Could you sue Carling and win? NO
Straight answers to straight questions!
And
4. Could Carling sue you and win?
Carling couldn't sue me or AJP with respect to AJP's sketch.
That's another straight answer!
Anyway, why does Will Carling want to do TV ad's??? 
5. Could Prince Charles be sued for saying "Carling stole my wife".
6. Could Carling be sued for 'racism' with respect to having a 'black' label?
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 12:41 PMAnyway, why does Will Carling want to do TV ad's???
What do the ads own?
Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 12:51 PM6. Could Carling be sued for 'racism' with respect to having a 'black' label?
I'm sure that someone would try it. (Or at very least complain.)
Calm down dear, it's a commercial!
(Couldn't resist it, tee hee 
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Quote: Frankie Rage @ December 3, 2007, 12:12 PMAs it is, I've been able to answer my own questions by doing my own research,
1. Which copyright laws have Carling broken (if any)? NONE
2. How have they broken those laws? THEY HAVEN'T
3. Could you sue Carling and win? NOStraight answers to straight questions!
You're obviously not a lawyer 
If I ask you a gay or bi-curious question what answer will I get?