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Profane language in sitcoms Page 4

People licking you. (Well, I actually said kids.)
I believe you said you would be strawberry flavoured...?

Yes, yes I would. :)

Most annoying made up swear word in a sitcom must be Smeg from Red Dwarf. I love the show, but never found Smeg as a word particularly funny. Conversely, the use of Naff (as in Naff Off, etc) in Porridge as a substitute swear word is quite endearing.

How times have changed. In the 60's, Mary Whitehouse was furious about the number of times bloody was written in Johnny Speight's Till Death us do Part scripts. For a matter of interest, there was a satire sketch show in the 60's called BBC-3 (2nd October 1965-16th April 1966) starring John Bird. In the edition of the 13th November 1965, the F word was mentioned for the first time on British television. It took a few months before things calmed down.

Quote: chipolata @ November 30, 2007, 9:57 AM

Most annoying made up swear word in a sitcom must be Smeg from Red Dwarf. I love the show, but never found Smeg as a word particularly funny. Conversely, the use of Naff (as in Naff Off, etc) in Porridge as a substitute swear word is quite endearing.

But smeg wasn't made up though was it!

And doesn't Naff stand for something?

Not available for f**king.

Quote: Jack Massey @ December 2, 2007, 7:48 PM

In the 60's, Mary Whitehouse was furious about the number of times bloody was written in Johnny Speight's Till Death us do Part scripts.

Yeah, but she was a batty old bitch.

Quote: David Chapman @ December 2, 2007, 7:52 PM

And doesn't Naff stand for something?

Not available for f**king.

According to Wikipedia, "not available for f**king" is a backroynm. So there you go.

Quote: Jack Massey @ December 2, 2007, 7:48 PM

How times have changed. In the 60's, Mary Whitehouse was furious about the number of times bloody was written in Johnny Speight's Till Death us do Part scripts. For a matter of interest, there was a satire sketch show in the 60's called BBC-3 (2nd October 1965-16th April 1966) starring John Bird. In the edition of the 13th November 1965, the F word was mentioned for the first time on British television. It took a few months before things calmed down.

Ironically the speaker - Ken Tynan - was saying, "I doubt if there are any rational people to whom the word 'f**k' would be particularly diabolical, revolting or totally forbidden."

Quote: David Chapman @ December 2, 2007, 7:52 PM

But smeg wasn't made up though was it!

And doesn't Naff stand for something?

I'm not sure if Smeg is a word, but it was clearly an F-word substitute, one that annoyed me (probably out of all proportion to how annoying it was).

Naff is a word, but was also used as an F-word substitute. It worked, although as portraits of prison go Porridge was clearly someway behind Oz in terms of realism.

Quote: chipolata @ December 3, 2007, 12:55 PM

Porridge was clearly someway behind Oz in terms of realism.

====================
Real Porridge
====================
FLETCH:
<smarmy comment>

MR MCKAY BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF FLETCH WITH AN IRON BAR SO THAT HE CAN'T OPEN HIS MOUTH TO SAY ANYTHING.

MR MACKAY:
Smug c**t

MR MACKAY LEAVES FLETCH IN A POOL OF HIS OWN BLOOD.

GRAMS: BITTERSWEET MUSIC

I think the realism loses something else...

Dan

Quote: Aaron @ December 2, 2007, 8:33 PM

Yeah, but she was a batty old bitch.

She happens to be my mother

Quote: chipolata @ December 3, 2007, 12:55 PM

I'm not sure if Smeg is a word

I believe it is short for smegma.

Note: Do not, whatever you do, just do what I did and put the word into Wikipedia to check whether it was spelt right! I'm not going to get that image out my head for ages... ewww.

People swear in everyday life so I don't see why such characters (based on real-life ones) shouldn't be mirrored in sitcoms.

I can't f**king believe that the f**king c**ts in the f**king sitcoms would use the f**king crude word for sexual intercourse.

Quote: Mark @ December 3, 2007, 6:04 PM

I believe it is short for smegma.

Note: Do not, whatever you do, just do what I did and put the word into Wikipedia to check whether it was spelt right! I'm not going to get that image out my head for ages... ewww.

Laughing out loud

Quote: Jack Massey @ December 3, 2007, 3:33 PM

She happens to be my mother

Ouch!

Quote: Mark @ December 3, 2007, 6:04 PM

I believe it is short for smegma.

Note: Do not, whatever you do, just do what I did and put the word into Wikipedia to check whether it was spelt right! I'm not going to get that image out my head for ages... ewww.

I seem to remember reading that it's not really short for smegma.. (but it might be..)... but I believe they were looking for a 'futuristic' swear-word which they invented. Certainly, they coined the term 'smeg', which had never been used before. Except perhaps concerning kitchen appliances.

Surely 'smeg' is better than 'f**k' in this context, as I think excessive swearing in RD would surely alienate a large proportion of the audience.

[The sitcom I'm writing at the moment has a bit of swearing in it. I've tried to cut it down. It's bloody rude still, though!]

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