The Trip - Series 1 Page 13

We've seen them a lot but the two women hadn't and it was all about C&B competing for their affection, for want of a better word. They had to do their best most competitive routine, obviously the Michael Caine off thing, so the context makes it okay.imo. A clever way of getting it in again too.

Quote: Dolly Dagger @ November 23 2010, 9:37 AM GMT

Although I saw the unsuccessful pass as not (entirely) serious, I guess they were showing that whereas Coogan has a reputation as a womaniser, Brydon could be predatory too.

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Yes definitely. We were led to believe the come on would be from Coogan, they fancied each other, were alone in a hotel room, she had some coke, and yet known womaniser Steve Coogan puts on his cagool and nerdy hat and they don't misbehave.

Whereas married father of three Brydon surprises us in coming on to the other one. Very very good indeed, love it.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ November 23 2010, 9:50 AM GMT

Yes definitely. We were led to believe the come on would be from Coogan, they fancied each other, were alone in a hotel room, she had some coke, and yet known womaniser Steve Coogan puts on his cagool and nerdy hat and they don't misbehave.

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Well, he did compliment her cardy. And I wouldn't be surprised if the next episode starts with him in bed with Yolanda. He did come on to her, but in a much more subtle and low key way.

Genuinely surprised by the reaction to this. I'm struggling to tune in to the tedium-fest.

Quote: Aaron @ November 23 2010, 11:10 AM GMT

Genuinely surprised by the reaction to this. I'm struggling to tune in to the tedium-fest.

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That's fair enough, it was never going to be everyone's cup of tea.

I actually joined this website almost entirely for the purposes of ranting about this show.

Can someone please tell me what makes it good.

Does it make you laugh? Why?

Why are these characters on this trip? What's at stake? What do they want?

Ok - I'll accept that it may not be intended to fit a traditional paradigm. If that's the case, then what's the new paradigm and what is the intended statement of the artists by creating this new paradigm?

Coogan's character looks sad and lost and brydon's character looks like a simpleton and a push-over. I appreciate that they may be trying to create a more complext character relationship than a normal sitcom but TO WHAT END?

I admit, I'm a little frustrated....

Quote: JPM1 @ November 23 2010, 1:53 PM GMT

I actually joined this website almost entirely for the purposes of ranting about this show.

Can someone please tell me what makes it good.

Does it make you laugh? Why?

Why are these characters on this trip? What's at stake? What do they want?

Ok - I'll accept that it may not be intended to fit a traditional paradigm. If that's the case, then what's the new paradigm and what is the intended statement of the artists by creating this new paradigm?

Coogan's character looks sad and lost and brydon's character looks like a simpleton and a push-over. I appreciate that they may be trying to create a more complext character relationship than a normal sitcom but TO WHAT END?

I admit, I'm a little frustrated....

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Maybe read the thread for some answers. I am sure some of your queries will have been covered.

Quote: JPM1 @ November 23 2010, 1:53 PM GMT

I actually joined this website almost entirely for the purposes of ranting about this show.

Can someone please tell me what makes it good.

Does it make you laugh? Why?

Why are these characters on this trip? What's at stake? What do they want?

Ok - I'll accept that it may not be intended to fit a traditional paradigm. If that's the case, then what's the new paradigm and what is the intended statement of the artists by creating this new paradigm?

Coogan's character looks sad and lost and brydon's character looks like a simpleton and a push-over. I appreciate that they may be trying to create a more complext character relationship than a normal sitcom but TO WHAT END?

I admit, I'm a little frustrated....

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We might have to watch the whole series to find out!

Although I wouldn't be surprised if it had a flat, no answers ending.

I've watched all four episodes and it's beautifully filmed and well observed but I just don't find it funny (or, to be honest, all that interesting).

I must admit that I laughed once during the latest episode, right at the start with the unexpected newspaper headline (Yay! At last, a joke! In a comedy show!), otherwise it's Rob Brydon interminable impersonations which I realize is kind of the point, in that he's being supremely ironic and taking the mickey out of himself and his boring reliance on impersonations to make people laugh and himself interesting but the show seems to be wanting to have it's cake and eat it.

Yes, Rob, and to a slightly lesser extent, Steve's constant need for attention and continually riffing and competing to see who can do the best Michael Caine is a pastiche of what their public persona is but by constantly playing up to this it just makes the whole thing even more tedious.

I can't believe that lots of people seem to think that them playing up to their stereotypes is in anyway "clever" or more valid comedically (and artistically) than Miranda Hart falling over and farting.

I'd have to also echo a lot of JPM1's points and questions, what is it for? Apart from to show, or at least hint at the hidden "depths" of Coogan and Brydon, oh and for them to travel around some spectacular scenery and eat at expensive restaurants (I'd love to have sat in at the meeting where they pitched it to the BBC).

"Hello Mr BBC, yes we'd like to get a Hollywood film director to make a series following Rob and Steve on a road trip around the Lake District, expensively filmed on location, where nothing much happens but they eat at expensive restaurants and constantly impersonate Michael Caine."

"Okay, sound's great, here's £1.5 million, off you go"

Quote: Tony Cowards @ November 23 2010, 2:12 PM GMT

, oh and for them to travel around some spectacular scenery and eat at expensive restaurants (I'd love to have sat in at the meeting where they pitched it to the BBC).

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Have you ever been on a film shoot Tony, TV or otherwise?

Quote: Marc P @ November 23 2010, 2:16 PM GMT

Have you ever been on a film shoot Tony, TV or otherwise?

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Yes, although only studio based.

*Interested to see where this line of questioning is going*

Quote: Tony Cowards @ November 23 2010, 2:20 PM GMT

Yes, although only studio based.

*Interested to see where this line of questioning is going*

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Well you should know it is one of the arse numbingly boring places to be in the world. And as for restaurant scenes do you seriously think it was all just one take and shot on the fly over a jolly dinner. These guys can eat what they want, where they want and go where they want . A film shoot as a crafty excuse to see some scenery and eat in nice restaurants is, I'm sure you'll agree, a bit of a silly suggestion.

Quote: Marc P @ November 23 2010, 2:31 PM GMT

Well you should know it is one of the arse numbingly boring places to be in the world. And as for restaurant scenes do you seriously think it was all just one take and shot on the fly over a jolly dinner. These guys can eat what they want, where they want and go where they want . A film shoot as a crafty excuse to see some scenery and eat in nice restaurants is, I'm sure you'll agree, a bit of a silly suggestion.

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Surely it's better than sitting around in a studio though?

I'll remember to point out the horror of boredom and what a sacrifice I'll be making when I pitch my sitcom set in the Bahamas.

Quote: Tony Cowards @ November 23 2010, 4:08 PM GMT

Surely it's better than sitting around in a studio though?

I'll remember to point out the horror of boredom and what a sacrifice I'll be making when I pitch my sitcom set in the Bahamas.

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This wasn't the point you were making Tony. And no it isn't. You finish the filming in a studio and f**k off home or to your local at the appointed hour more or less. There is a lot more work in this than you imagine. Good luck with your Bahamas sitcom meanwhile. Do you have a working title by the way? The Trip Abroad?

I can understand if people don't like it - taste is subjective - but I'm at a slight loss as to why those same people watch it week after week? Life's kind of too short to waste watching shows you don't enjoy.

Quote: chipolata @ November 23 2010, 4:33 PM GMT

I can understand if people don't like it - taste is subjective - but I'm at a slight loss as to why those same people watch it week after week? Life's kind of too short to waste watching shows you don't enjoy.

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This is a good point which I can't really answer, I guess I do enjoy it on a certain level (I certainly enjoy the scenery and stylistically I think it's excellent, as you'd expect from a film-maker of Michael Winterbottom's calibre) but, for me, as a comedy it's deeply flawed and seems to be too much of a vanity project.

I guess it's a bit like picking at a scab, I know I shouldn't do it and I certainly shouldn't do it and then grumble about it but there's something satisfying in it.