Quote: sootyj @ November 15 2010, 10:04 PM GMTThe modern education system is a hopeless conveyor belt ending with an increasingly worthless degree how ever bright and hard working you are.
Great attempt to make Robyn feel better about the thread...
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Quote: sootyj @ November 15 2010, 10:04 PM GMTThe modern education system is a hopeless conveyor belt ending with an increasingly worthless degree how ever bright and hard working you are. Except for Robyn cos she is really nice even if she has a hole in her red tights.
Happy now mum?
That is slightly better.
Quote: Scatterbrained Floozy @ November 15 2010, 8:27 PM GMTThis thread is just depressing me.
Sorry for doing a degree, and in something 'useless', sorry for still living at home and so being immature, and sorry for taking someone else's job?
I'm glad you said this Scats, rather than me. I am an old embittered twat but if there's one thing that annoys me (actually, in the coalition government there are lots, but lets move on) it's that whoever slags off the state of higher education, whether it be its cost, or its quality, or its worth, or its relevance - nine times out of ten these are people who have had the university experience themselves. And lots of them say students today are no good, things were better in their day, courses are easier now, and there are a load of worthless qualifications.
Bollocks to them. You and others like you deserve your chances just as much as we did, and in fact we are all going to rely on you in the years to come. It would be pretty short sighted to give up on higher education, or to promote a higher education system that deterred people from low incomes or those who wanted to pursue what is laughably described as a "joke degree". Keep going, and keep kicking against the pricks.
I went Uni
I did a joke degree
It was a waste of my time and the states money
I got alot out of professional and recreational study as an adult
My Uni experience put me off study for 10 years.
Grr Badge Grrr
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Quote: Badge @ November 16 2010, 1:52 AM GMTAnd lots of them say students today are no good, things were better in their day,
Noone has said that.
You and others like you deserve your chances just as much as we did, and in fact we are all going to rely on you in the years to come.
Noone is disputing that.
It would be pretty short sighted to give up on higher education, or to promote a higher education system that deterred people from low incomes or those who wanted to pursue what is laughably described as a "joke degree".
Noone is encouraging that either, certainly not 'deterring people from low income'- quite the opposite in fact.
Keep going, and keep kicking against the pricks.
Pay some attention to what people are saying before shit stirring and calling people pricks, please.
You a fellow late blooming academic Nat?
Quote: Scatterbrained Floozy @ November 15 2010, 8:27 PM GMTThis thread is just depressing me.
You should be proud and definitely not sorry! I admire anyone who is willing to learn, whether it's an actor, a carpenter's apprentice, a nurse or a checkout operator and whether it is at 16 or 56. Learning is available for all of our lives and people learn at different rates, in different situations, have different interests, strengths and weaknesses. They also have different financial backgrounds.
It seems to be the lack of support or acknowledgement of these differences that causes problems.
Quote: sootyj @ November 16 2010, 8:22 AM GMTYou a fellow late blooming academic Nat?
No, I'm a filthy dropout! I will be doing a degree at some point in my life though, but for the joy of learning only.
Me too I was doing media studies at UEL
Saved 2 years of my life.
Working on my Frankenstein's degree.
Quote: Nat Wicks @ November 16 2010, 8:18 AM GMTNoone has said that.
Noone is encouraging that either, certainly not 'deterring people from low income'- quite the opposite in fact.
Pay some attention to what people are saying before shit stirring and calling people pricks, please.
Well said!
Too many bleeding hearts.
Quote: Nat Wicks @ November 16 2010, 8:53 AM GMTNo, I'm a filthy dropout! I will be doing a degree at some point in my life though, but for the joy of learning only.
Quote: sootyj @ November 16 2010, 8:56 AM GMTMe too I was doing media studies at UEL
Saved 2 years of my life.
Working on my Frankenstein's degree.
I was crap at school, apart from English, typing and drama. I went to night school and college to do my O and A levels and found it really easy. I suppose it's because in higher education people are mainly there because they want to learn and not because they have to. I was going to drama school but changed my mind.
Quote: Nat Wicks @ November 16 2010, 8:18 AM GMTNoone has said that.
Noone is encouraging that either, certainly not 'deterring people from low income'- quite the opposite in fact.
Pay some attention to what people are saying before shit stirring and calling people pricks, please.
Nat, I think you are misunderstanding my post. I am not pointing the finger at anyone and I am not shit stirring. And you are obviously not familiar with the phrase kicking against the pricks.
Honestly, I assumed you were using the phrase in the way it is oft bastardised nowerdays, and not in the original biblical sense. Shouldn't have. I can admit when I'm wrong.
However, coming into a thread which is criticising the current higher eductation system, and starting with the description "whoever slags off the state of higher education, whether it be its cost, or its quality, or its worth, or its relevance" (which is the majority of people in this tread) can't really be taken any other way.
You were either shit stirring (making it out like the posters were saying something that they clearly weren't) or your post was misjudged. Which is easy enough to do, of course.
Quote: Badge @ November 16 2010, 9:52 AM GMTNat, I think you are misunderstanding my post. I am not pointing the finger at anyone
You should, I agree with you that most modern students are shit and their degrees worthless. That's what you were saying, right? 