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Quote: zooo @ October 29 2010, 1:08 PM BST

You only have to go online once. And arrange for your Oyster to automatically top up a certain amount every time it runs out.

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Inherent flaw with that being that if your card is stolen people can run up quite a tab before you correct it. (Happened to my next door neighbour.)

I think the problem a lot of people have with Oyster is that the system is being geared towards it more and more without taking into consideration the many of us who still use paper tickets.

Okay, well I didn't know that and that's not a bad idea. But where is this information? And the principle of making the unaligned traveller pay more is morally wrong.

Quote: PhQnix @ October 29 2010, 1:09 PM BST

Inherent flaw with that being that if your card is stolen people can run up quite a tab before you correct it. (Happened to my next door neighbour.)

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Happened to me too!

Oyster is definitely far from perfect at the moment.

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 29 2010, 1:09 PM BST

Okay, well I didn't know that and that's not a bad idea. But where is this information? And the principle of making the unaligned traveller pay more is morally wrong.

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I actually can't remember where I found it. I guess on the Oyster website. I definitely had no idea how the hell to use it before I moved to London. It's a bit impenetrable.

Quote: zooo @ October 29 2010, 1:11 PM BST

Happened to me too!

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Gutting! Did they refund you the difference?

Quote: zooo @ October 29 2010, 1:11 PM BST

I actually can't remember where I found it. I guess on the Oyster website. I definitely had no idea how the hell to use it before I moved to London. It's a bit impenetrable.

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I think a lot of the time knowledge of how the Oyster Card system works relies on hearsay. It is definitely impenetrable.

There is more to the choice of bonfire night than merely making a big point (and endangering the public). I believe the date for signing the new contracts is drawing near and when thousands of nonsigning firefighters are sacked, the Fire Brigade will have to rely on their back up service, the private company who will cover when the men are on strike. I believe the union hopes that by choosing the busiest night of the year, the private company will completely fail to cope and this will help force the employers to back down on their sacking threat.

I agree that on the surface it looks irresponsible and uncaring of the union but because their members are facing the sack if they don't accept the new contracts then this is a vital date for them to use. The employers seem to want something for nothing in return and are merely jumping on the cutbacks bandwagon that so many have already jumped on. They have backed the firefighters into an impossible corner I think.

The greedy banks caused this mess we're in, why can't the govt just seize all the assets of the executives in charge of the banks that gambled with our money and lost and put the moneys into the public sector so the many normal workers do not have to suffer? The greedy buggers still have their massive personal wealth and they got away scott free!!! If this happened in the old Russia, there would be merchant bankers hanging from every lampost in the financial area.

Quote: PhQnix @ October 29 2010, 1:17 PM BST

Gutting! Did they refund you the difference?

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Yep! they were actually really nice and helpful.

Quote: PhQnix @ October 29 2010, 12:46 PM BST

Oh f**k off sooty. If you can't debate something without resorting to petty personal digs then maybe you you should shut up?

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See that sort of language is why it's a good idea to encourage students off buses.

It's also a fair point. The central funding will pay for all is maddening.

Quote: PhQnix @ October 29 2010, 12:46 PM BST

Nowhere did I state that I was in favour of increasing taxes nowhere did I say "let's increase taxes especially for sootyj."

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Oh yes the magic make 'em pay. Left wing insistence on making the rich pay what they should is every bit as impractical as right wing effincey savings.

At some stage the idea that a creaking, money haemorraging mess like TFL can carry on in the same way it always has because people like to buy tickets face to face. Is straight out of Pyongang.

Life moves on.

And the sad fact that almost every government labor, liberal, conservative, whig what ever has realised. Is that a few ultra rich paying less tax than they should funds the work of government. A huge number of poor people getting screwed doesn't.

Tax the poor at higher rates I say and encourage them to make more of them selves.

What are we communists?

Quote: Godot Taxis @ October 29 2010, 1:09 PM BST

And the principle of making the unaligned traveller pay more is morally wrong.

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Every non compliant passenger slows the whole system down, delays buses causes traffic jams, requires more staff.

These wankers are more of a threat to the structure of our society than AlQuaea.

They should be made to sit at the back of the bus.

Oh and old bastards with freedom passes soon work out how to use Oyster.

Lying Vera Lynne idolising wank sticks.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ October 29 2010, 1:24 PM BST

The greedy banks caused this mess we're in, why can't the govt just seize all the assets of the executives in charge of the banks that gambled with our money and lost and put the moneys into the public sector so the many normal workers do not have to suffer?

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Because banks are mindless autontoms that do what we ask of them.

No really.

We wanted endless credit and mortgages on small salaries and we got it.

Besides to live in the world we want we elected leaders who enabled them to do what they wanted.

Strikes in this country always seem a bit feeble anyway. We lack the balls of the French.