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Quote: Win Wilders @ October 14 2010, 12:39 PM BST

I think you possibly misunderstood some of the feedback about the volume - primarily couldn't hear what the character was saying because of the loud SFX drowning you out.

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Look the SFX is loud but it doesn't drown me out. There are two sketches where as I've explained the character's voice is quieter and there the ones I suspect you mean but I think the character is still clear enough to hear although it is not perfect I am not defending it blindly. It could be improved there's not dobut about that.

Completely objectively (because I haven't yet listened): Surely if your audience think the SFX is too loud, then it is. Simple as.

Quote: James Cotter @ October 14 2010, 12:44 PM BST

I am not defending it blindly.

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Are you defending it deafly?

I think on certain sketches it's a tad to high but I can't get everything right can I? I just think some of you are being a bit picky with the sketches because it's me. Because of the way I promote myself your criticizing me as I was a professional audio editing company when it's only me editing them and voicing them. It's my fault for coming across as a the big I am. I am trying to take all of the feedback onboard and appreciate you treating me like a pro but as I've said before I'm still learning that's why I use this site to get feedback.

Quote: James Cotter @ October 14 2010, 12:59 PM BST

I think on certain sketches it's a tad to high but I can't get everything right can I? I just think some of you are being a bit picky with the sketches because it's me. Because of the way I promote myself your criticizing me as I was a professional audio editing company when it's only me editing them and voicing them. It's my fault for coming across as a the big I am. I am trying to take all of the feedback onboard and appreciate you treating me like a pro but as I've said before I'm still learning that's why I use this site to get feedback.

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And then ignore the feedback?

Quote: dannyjb1 @ October 14 2010, 1:05 PM BST

And then ignore the feedback?

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Your properly just winding me up with that comment but seriously I don't ignore feedback but then again I don't just do everything people say to me if I did that my work will be all over the shop as I get told different things but different people.

The dialogue is probably clearer to you because you know it. I've had the same problems when recording dialogue.

I think I've finally got a little stung into replying.

Ouch! First of all Sir Saffron Walden is about one of my most succesful sketches. And one of maybe a half a dozen I've acted in, it's not really about bestiality is it? (my gran I must say loved it and she's a most upright character). It's more about embarassment.

I have to say James I don't go a bomb on Urinal or Plinth. And I think I've said they were written as visual not audio sketches. They were part of a much earlier project (Date, Tube, Plinth..Urinal was part of an aborted sequel). Which though probably one of the best things I wrote has been my very on cursed Marie Celeste of a sketch.

Take out the visuals and the other scenes and what was a rather mordant sketch on despair, becomes well just a bit rude. And the colonel is more of a sad Walter Mitty figure pushing a stuffed dog around London and thinking of times gone.

That's sort of lost.

As it would appear is my reputation. I haven't written a topical sketch since News Jack and looking through my last couple of months a work I haven't written anything really sweary, scatological or obsene.

Well if you were really harsh you could say "Racist Chemist with a small penis" was about willies. But it's about Little Englander racism, was that point lost?

Ultimately the rep of Sootyj seems to have rather overshadowed that of Joel the writer.

Even in the absence of either...

Quote: Leevil @ October 14 2010, 1:23 PM BST

The dialogue is probably clearer to you because you know it. I've had the same problems when recording dialogue.

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You've got a point of course. There is that. I'm obviously going to give a biased opinion of the sketches.

Quote: James Cotter @ October 14 2010, 1:29 PM BST

You've got a point of course. There is that. I'm obviously going to give a unbiased opinion of the sketches.

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I think you mean biased. Not to say that people on here are giving unbiased opinions (as you've already noted) but most are simply pointing out niggling sound issues - specifically looped SFX at too high a volume.

Quote: James Cotter @ October 14 2010, 1:29 PM BST

I'm obviously going to give a biased opinion of the sketches.

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It's not bias, it's having an advantage of understanding the dialogue.

Quote: David Bussell @ October 14 2010, 1:31 PM BST

I think you mean biased. Not to say that people on here are giving unbiased opinions (as you've already noted) but most are simply pointing out niggling sound issues - specifically looped SFX at too high a volume.

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I did thanks. That's my point it's niggly sound issues not the overall quality of the sketch, performance or writing that is a big issue. But it's properly me just being to touchy.

Quote: sootyj @ October 14 2010, 1:27 PM BST

I haven't written a topical sketch since News Jack and looking through my last couple of months a work I haven't written anything really sweary, scatological or obsene.

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Perhaps I'm honing in on the wrong sketches. I seem to remember the last few I've looked at have had titles like the afformentioned 'racist chemist with a small penis' sketch (and when I read a title like that I chalk it up to being one of those muck-about numbers you cobble together in a couple of minutes that features a chemist, Robocop, you and half of Parliament) or else the first line of action includes the name of a polititian I've never heard of and a reference to a piece of news I haven't read yet. Feel free to direct me to a couple of sketches that don't fit that mould and I'll give them a read. And don't give up hope, Soots, we still loves ya!

May I implore you to read Racist Chemist with a Small Penis sketch?

It's really the second best one I ever did write.

And I've been off the topicals for ages. At the moment I am working on a couple of projects (one of which I get paid for, yay!) But at the same time I am desperately working on what I identified as my 4 main areas of weakness.

1 Poor characterisation
2 Poor dialogue
3 Generally poor levels of English, grammar, spelling etc.
4 Poor timing.

I hope I'm improving. But I also was aware that my overall low standard in these areas meant I was either not getting read, or being read with rather low expectations.

Besides I thought you liked my Robocop sketch?