Visiting Landan Tan. Page 11
Because he's worth it?
I haven't seen Aaron for two years. I understand he's grown his hair.
Quote: Nogget @ September 21 2010, 9:31 PM BSTThe thing is, you might have heard other people criticise things you like in the same sort of way. For example, old people often dismiss contemporary music as being 'just noise'. They don't understand it, so all they hear is noise. In the same way, we might see an art object as being 'just material', whilst missing whatever it is that other people might appreciate in it. Best to understand what the message is supposed to be...and then dismiss it as rubbish, because I admit that the sort of work you describe very often is just that.
Methinx that most of us feel that it takes WORK to create good art, not just an idea and a few easily purchased materials.
Thus a strip of fabric on a nail is not considered art unless you found that the artist took 5 years to crochet it from the silk of just 100 silk worms grown in his studio & fed only on KFC.
Quote: Nat Wicks @ September 22 2010, 10:24 AM BSTIN. I want to die.
Just try & hang in there for another 90 years or so.
Quote: billwill @ September 24 2010, 1:54 AM BSTMethinx that most of us feel that it takes WORK to create good art, not just an idea and a few easily purchased materials.
Sometimes the work has all been done behind the scenes. Art is all about context. Duchamp was already a highly-regarded conventional artist when he produced this masterpiece, which required only for him to sign a urinal with a pseudonym;
...you might not like it, but it was revolutionary in the art world.
'Fountain' was 'anti-art' - ie a joke - an attempt to see whether he could get a urinal into an art gallery. It isn't a 'masterpiece' and Duchamp never thought it was either.
The tragic fact that much modern art is based on 100 year-old attempts to shock the middle classes is largely because when you go to art school the first lecture you get is on modernism. The miniature Turks and Emins and Lucases attend this lecture and pause their brains as soon as they grasp the concept of a ready-made - ie they don't actually have to make anything, which gives them more time to f**k, take drugs listen to the Orb (in my day) and talk about themselves.
Art is an idea embodied in an aesthetic. In much modern art there is an idea - often not entirely novel or engaging but no aesthetic. The ready-made object refuses to be transformed. The mattress with a cucumber stuck in it remains a mattress with a cucumber stuck in it.