Quote: KJSmyling @ September 13 2010, 7:03 PM BSTNot really into the use of narrative to tell a tale then?
Yes but not a narrative which contradicts itself, which is why I've never liked the Bible...
Did Alanis Morissette ever respond to Ed Byrne... Page 4
I love the fact that The King James Version of the bible encourages rampant homophobia and he was a big fan of the cock himself.
For me, the only sin is to have predictable lyrics; I'm fed up with "I've been waitin'/ anticipatin'", it's just so lazy. If the protagonist has indeed been waitin', then there are plenty of other rhymes which could be used.
Some artists use words which apparently make no sense, but at least they're not predictable.
"A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace,
And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace,
And achieve it all with music that came quickly from afar,
Then taste the fruit of man recorded losing all against the hour."
Quote: Timbo @ September 13 2010, 8:49 PM BSTI always rather assumed Carly Simon was making a joke at her own expense. It is a clever lyric.
That as well. It's, like, layered.
The song is about how well she's coping in herself.
It's not about him.
Some people couldn't find subtext with depthcharges and sonar.
Quote: sootyj @ September 13 2010, 9:42 PM BSTThe song is about how well she's coping in herself.
It's not about him.
Some people couldn't find subtext with depthcharges and sonar.
Yeah, but, like, if it's subtext, is that what it's *really* about?
Yes.
I am the worlds greatest expert on Carly Simon's and subtext.
Quote: bamalamafizzvaj @ September 13 2010, 1:24 PM BSTJust because there's a lot of guff in pop lyrics, that doesn't mean Ironic is any good. Perhaps slightly less shit than many pop songs, but still essentially arse.
I listen to more Rapeman than Alanis Morrisette, but it's ridiculous not to acknowledge that Jagged Little Pill is an outstanding record. There's nothing 'arse' about it at all.
Quote: Chappers @ September 13 2010, 4:42 PM BSTThat was basically crap.
That was class.
Shit, Chappers likes Billy Bragg. Now I'll have to show the c**t some respect.
Quote: Badhead @ September 13 2010, 7:28 PM BST"slowly walking down the hall, faster than a cannonball"
There's nothing wrong with this lyric at all. The narrator is suggesting that his relaxed strolling down the hallway is perceived by others as moving at high speed and with great impact.
i.e. making a huge impression is effortless for him.
Surprising how much pedantic bollocks is being expressed in this thread.
Example:
Quote: Tony Cowards @ September 13 2010, 6:07 PM BSTDon't get me started, a song that has the lyric "I wrote this song two hours before we met" and then goes on about things changing after they met, eh?
I love The Who & Small Faces for Lyrics. Also you have to love the Doors. Yeah they were high but they wrote some amazing shit.
I also love Tracey Chapmans Lyrics.
My fav lyrics are the Stones - No sympathy for the Devil!
"A one way ticket to hell...and back" - The Darkness
A Super-Saver Return surely
Quote: Tony Cowards @ September 13 2010, 2:04 PM BSTThere are plenty of songs that I love despite having major problems with them...
The Clash, "Should I stay or should I go now, if I go there will be trouble, if I stay it will be double", well go then, it's half the trouble of staying, it's a no-brainer.
Billy Bragg "I was 21 years when I wrote this song, I'm 22 now but I won't be for long" well were you 21 or 22 when you wrote the song? If you were 21 why were you writing that you were "22 now"?
Deacon Blue "I'll do what I should've did", what I should've did? Just because it rhymes with "real gone kid" doesn't excuse such shoddy grammar.
I could go on but this is a brief example of my problems with pop music... I am a troubled man.
This is the funniest post on here since...ooo, ages. I concur. 
Quote: Kevin Murphy @ September 14 2010, 1:11 AM BSTSurprising how much pedantic bollocks is being expressed in this thread.
Perhaps we could link examples from the 'what are you listening to ' thread to here, to discover what sort of grammatically-perfect lyrical content the bollocks-expressers actually enjoy?
Going to move this to General as it's sooooooo off topic.
And very funny.
Quote: Nogget @ September 13 2010, 9:35 PM BST"A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace,
And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace,
And achieve it all with music that came quickly from afar,
Then taste the fruit of man recorded losing all against the hour."
And every other Jon Anderson song. I've no idea what he's on about most of the time but I love it.
Quote: Godot Taxis @ September 14 2010, 12:16 AM BSTShit, Chappers likes Billy Bragg. Now I'll have to show the c**t some respect.
Nah - prefer the Kirsty Macoll version.
Quote: Chappers @ September 14 2010, 11:01 AM BSTAnd every other Jon Anderson song. I've no idea what he's on about most of the time
I recall hearing Chris Squire express the same opinion.
For insane lyrics though you cannot beat Syd: "with eskimo chain I've tattooed my brain all away..."