Quote: chipolata @ August 10 2010, 11:59 AM BST
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Quote: chipolata @ August 10 2010, 8:01 AM BSTAgree about Brit drama being in the doldrums. To me Sherlock was an 'entertainment', nothing more and nothing less. It certainly wasn't the saviour of British TV drama.
The absolutely ecstatic reviews that this series has received elsewhere is probably indicative of how low BBC drama has sunk. The first ep probably was the best British TV drama I've seen in years but since it was lightweight entertainment, gimmicky and, as has been pointed out, with less substance than an average Columbo, that is not saying much.
Once again the BBC shows its obsession with demographics: a preponderance of thirty-something characters, texting, website references, a formulaic title-sequence with a panaroma of London etc.
Maybe you're just wrong.
If anything was going to become the saviour of British drama it would have been Life on Mars, it's a shame that not many risks are being taken. (saying that I thought it was brave to not do Sherlock as a period drama)
Will we ever see something as daring as The Singing Detective on the Beeb any time soon? Nope. They're too frightened to take many chances.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/10/sherlock-second-series-bbc
(Sorry if that's already been posted.)
Quote: Nat Wicks @ August 10 2010, 12:38 PM BSTMaybe you're just wrong.
Chances are middling to high in this case.
I make no judgements, but I think it's important to explore all possibilities before making an informed decision..
The problem with the BBC is that they do fine serious drama (Occupation, Blood and Oil, Five Days, Moses Jones), and some decent hocum (Torchwood:Children of Earth, Sherlock, Dr Who), but what they struggle with is light and shade. Life on Mars was probably the last show to get it right. But they (and ITV) used to it all the time, and in America it seems accepted that drama exists on a continuum, with shows as diverse as Buffy, CSI, House, Dexter, Justified, Deadwood, Madmen and The Wire all blending the ingredients of popular drama in different proportions; there is not this deadening duality between the commercial and the worthy that seems to exist in the minds of British TV execs.
Quote: roscoff @ August 10 2010, 11:59 AM BSTWhy would the forger for instance put something in the painting that would make it possible to identify it as a forgery?
Worth noting that Moriarty accepted the astronomical anomaly as proof that this was a forgery, which suggests that he was involved in creating it that way.
Quote: Nogget @ August 10 2010, 2:03 PM BSTWorth noting that Moriarty accepted the astronomical anomaly as proof that this was a forgery, which suggests that he was involved in creating it that way.
Yes, plus being an expert forger doesn't make you an expert astrologer! It probably wouldn't cross most peoples minds that the stars could be different.
Also most forgers make a small deliberate error. Thus allowing them to try and argue it was an original work and not a forgery.
Quote: sootyj @ August 10 2010, 2:24 PM BSTAlso most forgers make a small deliberate error. Thus allowing them to try and argue it was an original work and not a forgery.
I've never heard of that before, can you give an example? I know that mapmakers put in deliberate errors in order to prove that other mapmakers have copied them.
Saw it on a documentary on money counterfeiters.
But it's too nice a day for me to Google it.
Or maybe the forger just did it for a laugh. Face it - if it had been a perfect copy then it wouldn't have worked very well in the story.
Quote: Afinkawan @ August 10 2010, 5:07 PM BSTOr maybe the forger just did it for a laugh. Face it - if it had been a perfect copy then it wouldn't have worked very well in the story.
I don't think it was meant to be a copy, was it? Wasn't it an undiscovered work?
Quote: Nogget @ August 10 2010, 6:21 PM BSTI don't think it was meant to be a copy, was it? Wasn't it an undiscovered work?
It was a forgery posing as an undiscovered work; they went into quite some depth about how it was a fake and how they had found someone to paint it, then set it up as authentic, then how they planned to sell it for a packet.