Quote: David Bussell @ December 8 2008, 2:00 PM GMTIt's a pun alright.
But not as we know it.
TIGER Page 2
See a kind of version of this sketch live at the Ect Theatre in Camden on the 7th of June (think that might be enough plugging (for the moment)).
Well the live version of this is now up, I warn those people who had sound issues with the our previous live stuff, may again have issues here, but you will notice that people in the audience heard it all, after all that's how LIVE stuff is meant to be heard. 
Anywhere here is Tigers
AH, THE VIDEO... I WONDERED IF... ("live" I pssst myself at this one at the June gig)
I quite like the sketch. I of course (unlike probably most everybody else) know all about the "JM's and tigers"...
But what I didn't get was the Tony the Tiger bit.
As far as I can see, nothing bad ever happened to Tony the Tiger. He got on TV. Frosties are an iconic gr-r-r-reat brand (sorry) so that bit needs work I think but overall I like the (classic JM's) banter between the two tigers and (obviously) I always have you and Dave performing it in my imagination, so I'm biased in favour of it by default!
If I were a BBC Producer (and I ought to be..) I'd give you and Dave a show and I'd get those wonderful Associates back into the group too and put you at the top of the TV charts ..and pop charts! Pan's People would dance to our tunes and we could get Carol Cleveland!
...and BCG can kiss yo' ass!
Quote: dannyjb1 @ July 31 2010, 12:44 PM BSTbut you will notice that people in the audience heard it all, after all that's how LIVE stuff is meant to be heard.
You've been coming across a little bitter recently, Danny.
Anyway, I think the sound issues are always going to be there until you get a sound crew involved. And that would be somewhat of a waste of money until the live DVD recording.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ July 31 2010, 1:30 PM BSTAH, THE VIDEO... I WONDERED IF... ("live" I pssst myself at this one at the June gig)
I quite like the sketch. I of course (unlike probably most everybody else) know all about the "JM's and tigers"...
But what I didn't get was the Tony the Tiger bit.
Just a 'I bet Tony didn't have to go through this crap and look how successful he is'.
Ben, more disappointed than bitter, probably.
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Danny, having looked at the video, I am not sure why you have re-written the sketch away from this Etcetera version?
Either way, I like the premise and think it works. You can rewrite and rewrite it until the cows come home (unless the tigers ate them?!)
Over to you, anyway!
Frankie xxx 
Quote: dannyjb1 @ July 31 2010, 1:40 PM BSTJust a 'I bet Tony didn't have to go through this crap and look how successful he is'.
Yes it works better with that line back in. For me, anyway.
Quote: Ben @ July 31 2010, 1:39 PM BSTYou've been coming across a little bitter recently, Danny.
Anyway, I think the sound issues are always going to be there until you get a sound crew involved. And that would be somewhat of a waste of money until the live DVD recording.
Not bitter as such, just really wanted more of you guys to come and see us as it was meant to be seen, so you could enjoy it without the sound issues.
And I hope you will the next time.
Quiet right we didn't have a sound crew, we just had Dave's mate with a camera on the back row, but it was done because people expressed an interest in seeing it.
I am really happy with the end result and all the laughs we got but always want more people to enjoy it with us, but there have been good comments (apart from the loose the beard... lol) and will definitly be taking them on board for the next time.
Don't even think about losing the beard! 
(I'm the beard's agent btw)
Quote: Frankie Rage @ July 31 2010, 1:47 PM BSTBen, more disappointed than bitter, probably.
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Danny, having looked at the video, I am not sure why you have re-written the sketch away from this Etcetera version?
Either way, I like the premise and think it works. You can rewrite and rewrite it until the cows come home (unless the tigers ate them?!)
Over to you, anyway!
Frankie xxx
Yes it works better with that line back in. For me, anyway.
That line was never in, it is all suggested maybe too subtly in 'I bet Tony never had all these problems and look at him now the face of a multi-national breakfast serial'. But perhaps you are right.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ July 31 2010, 1:47 PM BSTDanny, having looked at the video, I am not sure why you have re-written the sketch away from this Etcetera version?
Ah, right now I get it. This was the original version Frank posted many moons ago, we rewrote if for the show
The masks seemed to have had you both shouting which didn't help.
Like with my earlier remarks this felt whimsical and a bit too lite weight. It seems to swing on 2 weakish puns about Tony not being a tiger and "earning stripes." I think it needs more structure and to well feel that it's more about tigers?
Quote: sootyj @ July 31 2010, 2:12 PM BSTThe masks seemed to have had you both shouting which didn't help.
Like with my earlier remarks this felt whimsical and a bit too lite weight. It seems to swing on 2 weakish puns about Tony not being a tiger and "earning stripes." I think it needs more structure and to well feel that it's more about tigers?
I am a huge fan of the whimsical, but yeah you are right I was only discussing this with Dave the other day and suggested we needed more jokes in the build up.
Whimsical can be great. But you need to convince that they're tigers more, agressive, loner apex predators. Get that right and any whimsical gag you play against them will work far better.
And Danny dump most of the props. They distract more than they help.
I did think about coming, Danny, as I like to support BCGers where possible, but it's a bit difficult with my job and not living in London.
Ben,
The Etcetera is a lovely little theatre and well worth the trip to see anything there. Only seats about 40 so is in the "intimate" category. Nice pub downstairs that does a never-ending pub quiz and, of course, the rest of Camden is just outside the door...
Grrr-e-e-e-a-a-t, said Tony!