I read the news today oh boy! Page 174

Another thing Moat was guilty of was being an idiot. He shot his girlfriend's bloke believing him to be 'the copper that sent him down'. Well he wasn't, was he. Best to get these things right before you go on a shooting spree really.

Not only that, but so what if he had been a copper? Moat's vendetta against the police was outrageous prejudice; imagine how the public would view him if he'd targeted prostitutes or blacks.

Finally, what was his girlfriend actually guilty of? By pursuing his course of action, Moat pretty much completely confirmed why she was right to leave him in the first place; he was a psychotic control freak taken to performing the most heinous acts of violence against those closest to him, for things which never took place. Which is also a pretty good reason why his brother shouldn't have been allowed to go near him at the end, because Moat might have shot him too for all we know.

Harvey Pekar has died:

http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/537147/harvey_pekar_19392010.html

Damn, how sad.

Along with Gary Gygax another great I won't get to meet.

Quote: sootyj @ July 12 2010, 6:32 PM BST

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/stoke_and_staffordshire/10596808.stm

It's the BBC so I'm assuming this story is for real.

If it is it really is political correctness gone completely mad.

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Look - I don't really know anything about Ramadam - but surely they can't go without water during this period.

It's a short fast dawn-dusk. But if it's young kids, then it's dodgier still.

Quote: sootyj @ July 13 2010, 11:12 AM BST

It's a short fast dawn-dusk. But if it's young kids, then it's dodgier still.

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Tsk! Don't you know that children aren't required to perform the fast until they reach puberty? Also, women are exempt from fasting when menstruating because they are deemed unclean.

Kenneth I know that. But the holier (and ignorant) than thou bunch. Are ignoring the namby pamby Iftahs in favor of I'm more religious than you silliness. Including prepubesent fasting.

Believe it or not, plenty of young Muslim kids in Muslim countries want to take part in the fasting - for that sense of being adult and community participation. It may not be our way or the right way - but it's their way. Provided children don't end up suffering illness or malnutrition, it doesn't hurt them to fast. Muslims actually eat MORE food during Ramadan than in other months, because the pre-dawn fasting meal is really big, and as soon as the sun sets, everyone pigs out on loads of food (usually better meals than the rest of the year - as it's a celebration). Of course some nominal Muslims care not for fasting and don't bother with it. And anyone who forced an infant to fast should not be a parent.

Ramadan fasting is fine.

But it's when schools say "no swimming for anyone," before asking is this good for the kids?

Then it concerns me.

More a blanket respect for religious views at the expense of others. Without questioning if those rights are so great in the first place. Unthinking knee jerk respect is as bad as unthinking knee jerk prejudice.

Quote: Matthew Stott @ July 13 2010, 9:25 AM BST

Harvey Pekar has died:

http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/537147/harvey_pekar_19392010.html

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F**king bummer. Realy enjoyed his stuff. American Splendor is one of my favourite films.

RIP Harvey.

Got to link to this, if only to see if I can pop that blue vein in Aaron's temple.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/186563/One-in-5-Britons-will-be-ethnics

Disgraceful. Using "ethnic" as a noun. And in a headline? And on the front page? What's this country coming to?

Quote: Kevin Murphy @ July 13 2010, 2:13 PM BST

What's this country coming to?

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Um. let's see, now. A country full of increasingly narrow-minded, fearful idiots? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Quote: sootyj @ July 13 2010, 12:51 PM BST

But it's when schools say "no swimming for anyone," before asking is this good for the kids? Then it concerns me.

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Indeed, I only just read the linked article, to wit:

Swimming lessons in some Staffordshire schools should stop during Ramadan to ensure Muslim pupils "do not swallow water", a council has suggested.

which is completely retarded. If bureaucrats want to impose ridiculous Ramadan rules on everyone, make the whole country a sharia theocracy, otherwise don't be stupid.

Ha. What utter wank.

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(Not you, Kenneth!)

Quote: zooo @ July 13 2010, 2:25 PM BST

Ha. What utter wank.

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Yes. If it's so important to their faith, then the Muslim kids just don't get to swim. Who actually swallows gulps of water at a swimming pool anyway?