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I'm quickly losing my faith in England, and especially Capello. Okay Green messed up but they had a whole half to get the lead back. What the hell is Heskey doing in the first team, not many would've even taken him! And Lampard and Gerrard cannot play together, you cannot play with two leader type attacking midfielders, it's a nonsense, Capello doesn't get it!! Drop Lampard, drop Heskey and drop Green before he drops another clanger.

Quote: catskillz @ June 13 2010, 3:36 AM BST

That new ball that's being used is definitely going to take some getting used to.

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Yes England need a square one, they cannot control anything round, it rolls away from them.

We will see a very different team next game. Barry will be back. Millner won't get a look in. He will stick with Green though.

My neighbor works nights and asked me if I wanted to stay home from work Friday and go to the pub to watch the next U.S. game. The pub will be open at 8 a.m. for the game, so how could I say no to early morning beers?

I keep hoping for a ban for the vuvuzelas. They can be really distracting and annoying as hell, although I don't think France could not have played any better no matter how much their captain blames it on the horns...

Quote: Nick Flanagan @ June 13 2010, 4:54 PM BST

I keep hoping for a ban for the vuvuzelas.

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Me too, they past annoying now, and I miss the songs and chants.

Quote: Nil Putters @ June 13 2010, 4:55 PM BST

Me too, they past annoying now, and I miss the songs and chants.

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Exactly! They brought so much more to the game, it was the football spirit not some bloody hive of angry bees in your ears. I bet the announcers can barely hear their own thoughts with all that noise.

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Quote: Nick Flanagan @ June 13 2010, 5:00 PM BST

Exactly! They brought so much more to the game, it was the football spirit not some bloody hive of angry bees in your ears. I bet the announcers can barely hear their own thoughts with all that noise.

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It's tedious to say the least.

Do they serve alcohol at the matches? It seems like blowing a horn would quickly become tiresome if there wasn't booze to spur one along.

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Notice Peter Scriveners typical Tristram response . .

Quote: DaButt @ June 13 2010, 5:18 PM BST

Do they serve alcohol at the matches? It seems like blowing a horn would quickly become tiresome if there wasn't booze to spur one along.

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Can't speak for this tournament but I've never been to a football game where you can't buy a drink, so I would presume so yeah. The players can't drink tho (any more) so it wouldn't help them. I would ban them definitely, every world cup gets more and more like a stupid carnival and less like a proper football match. I blame the Brazilians, they started it.

The first World Cup in which I have vivid memories are from 1978 in Argentina. I'm pretty sure that if you watch clips from the one before in '74 in West Germany, they had horns in the background too. However they just weren't as relentless as those damn vizaveehulahoops

I remember a football arcade game that I used to play in the early '90s, that used to have that horn sound going all the time. Then in '94 when I first started seeing footage of Gary Lineker playing in Japan, they could always be heard there as well.

By the way, why do the American media keep referring to the English as the "British"? Yes, the England players are British as well as English, but surely during the World Cup, when they're playing for England, they should be referred to as English, shouldn't they?

Quote: catskillz @ June 14 2010, 12:35 AM BST

By the way, why do the American media keep referring to the English as the "British"? Yes, the England players are British as well as English, but surely during the World Cup, they should be referred to as English, shouldn't they?

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Lack of familiarity, I suppose. We typically think of countries and not multi-nation unions, so he notion of a "united kingdom" seems a little odd. I guess we've had the UK banner thrown at us so much that we've completely blurred the lines between the UK, Great Britain and England.

For what it's worth, UK/English/British people/media typically refer to this nation as "America" while most natives seldom do so, typically referring to it as "the United States" or "the U.S."

Quote: DaButt @ June 14 2010, 12:58 AM BST

Lack of familiarity, I suppose. We typically think of countries and not multi-nation unions, so he notion of a "united kingdom" seems a little odd. I guess we've had the UK banner thrown at us so much that we've completely blurred the lines between the UK, Great Britain and England.

For what it's worth, UK/English/British people/media typically refer to this nation as "America" while most natives seldom do so, typically referring to it as "the United States" or "the U.S."

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While we're on the subject, what percentage of Americans do you think know that Wales even exists? Apparently George Bush once met a famous Welsh singer called Charlotte Church, and he said, "Whereabouts in England is Wales?"

When they talk about a 'British accent' that always makes me laugh, there is more range between an Ulster or Glasgow accent and a posh standard English accent than the most extreme of US accents, so which British accent do they mean?